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TravisR
February 20, 2007
Member since 12/4/2006 🔗
79 posts
This was in the national weather service-blacksburg forecast discussion this evening. No global warming this month! Wanted to pass
this on to all since i found it interesting........

IF THE MONTH HAD ENDED THIS MORNING IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
COLDEST FEBRUARY ON RECORD AT ROANOKE...29.1 DEGREES...RECORD IS
29.3 IN 1979. ALSO LYNCHBURG AT 27.8 AND WITH RECORDS BACK TO 1893
IT IS THE COLDEST SO FAR. BLACKSBURG AT 24.0...AND BLUEFIELD AT
23.5 ARE IN SECOND PLACE. OF COURSE THESE RECORDS WONT REALLY BE
THREATENED WITH THE WARM-UP SLATED FOR THIS WEEK...THOUGH WILL
LIKELY AT LEAST REMAIN IN THE TOP 10 COLDEST.
Mountain Masher
February 20, 2007
Member since 03/13/2004 🔗
541 posts
From a historical perspective, the LONG warm spell that preceded the Jan/Feb cold spell was far more significant. The warm spell equaled or broke TONS of records throughout the mid-Atlantic while the cold spell broke FEW, if ANY records. Unfortunately, GW skeptics have tried to elevate the cold spell into something far larger than it actually was. By the way, it's going to get up into the mid-60s tomorrow in Richmond VA.....so, you're correct in stating that Feb, 2007 isn't going to set ANY cold weather records!
john84
February 21, 2007
Member since 11/7/2005 🔗
27 posts
"By the way, it's going to get up into the mid-60s tomorrow in Richmond VA.....so, you're correct in stating that Feb, 2007 isn't going to set ANY cold weather records!"

Yes, but in Mercersburg, where people actually go skiing, it's only forecasted to get into the mid 40's, likely a few degrees colder at whitetail itself. Additionally, Davis is only supposed to top out in the low 40's.
Mountain Masher
February 21, 2007
Member since 03/13/2004 🔗
541 posts
True, but 7-Springs got some HEAVY rain this evening! At about 4:15 PM it started to sprinkle and, by the time that I was putting my gear in the car (about 5:00 PM) the sky just opened up! It rained cats and dogs for at least an hour or 2. Now, most of South-Western PA has fog and drizzle. Trust me, by the time that this mild spell is over, some real damage will have been done to the bases at most ski areas.
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The Colonel - DCSki Supporter
February 21, 2007
Member since 03/5/2004 🔗
3,107 posts
Who is he kidding. He is a fickle as they come, although he seems a little more positive for the last few weeks than here-to-fore. MM...you really delight in busting all the bubbles you can. It will be late Feb and March for the next 5 weeks...that's the only thing for sure. Relish the great conditions...enjoy the great spring conditions we will see...and for all of our sakes...put a lid on the negativism. Let the rest of us enjoy what is left of the ski season...whether a day, week, or month +.
I do not understand why you always have to pounch on anything that is negative for the good folks here at DCSki.
You, and all of us, enjoy the rest of the season.
The Colonel
Crazy
February 21, 2007
Member since 01/17/2007 🔗
2 posts
MM is a flaming liberal. He has no basis for his facts and refuses to look around a bunch of unproven theories. He wants the government to take more control over our lives and become a socialist nation. At the same time, he is a very insecure person because he feels he has to prove that he is right on things. Unfortunately, he isn't very good at it. If something that seems anti-global warming happens (ie. below normal temps), he blames it on global-warming. Not sure what he drives but I am sure it is something just like the rest of us. Of course, he'll say he drives some little car around. That's nice. Do you ever fly in a gas-guzzling airplane to get anywhere? Al Gore flies around in a private jet to promote his global warming propaganda. Hypocrit. Is the earth in a warming trend? Yes. Is it caused by George Bush and the rest of us? Who the hell knows. Please don't say the experts in climatology gave their report. You never hear the reports about from the experts against human-caused global warming. There are just as many out there, but the liberal big press does not want you to know about it. MM, I don't know how anyone could stand to be around you with all your negativity. One-upper!
dmh
February 21, 2007
Member since 12/11/2003 🔗
127 posts
What? MM is many things, and may be a liberal and a socialist, but despite all his chicken little talk about local weather he is right about one fundamental fact--global climate change is real, it is having a significant impact on our global climate, and there is no longer any credible scientific evidence to the contrary. Only crackpots now dispute the fact of global warming. There might be (although less and less) some dispute about the extent that humans contribute to global warming. There is substantial dispute about what to do about it. But no longer any real argument about global warming.

Where MM does overstate things is when he tries to go from broad, global climate change to localized weather patterns. To say there is global warmings is not very useful when trying to determine what the low temperature will be in Davis tomorrow. Climate and weather are different phenomena and MM continues to try to confuse the two and it does not help his credibility. But, global warming deniers have even less credibility so I suppose it is a stand-off better them and MM.
Scott - DCSki Editor
February 21, 2007
Member since 10/10/1999 🔗
1,139 posts
Alright, let's put a stop to this thread, please. DCSki does not tolerate personal attacks against individuals, and I've repeatedly stressed that this is not the forum to get into big climate change debates. Why? Because it always degenerates into these kinds of attacks. I will just make one suggestion to Mountain Masher. I am deeply concerned about climate change and understand all of the reputable and incontrivertible science behind it, and I am personally taking steps to do something about it (e.g., I purchase wind credits for my house and car through Renewable Choice and TerraPass). More and more people are waking up to the crisis. But constant and not-so-subtle commentary by you relating every little thing to global warming only serves to make people tired of hearing your voice and skeptical about the cause you are promoting, and you end up doing harm to your cause. I thought the movie "An Inconvenient Truth" by Al Gore was somewhat brilliant because it presents the science of global warming in an entertaining, provocative, but non-preachy way. The movie has been a big success, and has opened up a lot of minds to the potential dangers of human activity on the climate. There are ways to draw people into an issue in an engaging way, and there are ways to push people away from an issue through constant negativity and overreaching. In any event, these discussions aren't appropriate for DCSki (and my apologies for adding my own commentary above, but I've been biting my tongue for a long time).
Ullr
February 21, 2007
Member since 11/27/2004 🔗
531 posts
Wait just one second Scott!

I happen to enjoy coming to DCWeather and all this site has to has to offer.
Jim
February 21, 2007
Member since 11/22/1999 🔗
317 posts
The single biggest threat to the skiing/riding industry is not global warming - its TICKET SALES (or lack thereof!). Want to enjoy skiing/riding? Want local areas to stay open longer? GO SKIING (or boarding)!!! If you come, they will stay open - its as simple as that!
skiTLINE
February 21, 2007
Member since 12/15/2004 🔗
230 posts
Alls I know is that this week looks good for Tline weather as more snow is expected. This weekend although a little warmup is coming also as snow forecasted.

If this is "bad" then fine by me.
Mountain Masher
February 21, 2007
Member since 03/13/2004 🔗
541 posts
I my opinion, TLine/Canaan and the Shoe fare the best in late season, that's why I'm heading to CV on Sunday for 5 days of skiing. And, I expect the conditions and base to be about average for the end of Feb., which will translate to some pretty good skiing! Well, I'm off to Holiday Valley, NY where I'm going to meet some LIBERAL Canadian friends for a day and a half of skiing. Talk to you-all later....
jimmy
February 21, 2007
Member since 03/5/2004 🔗
2,650 posts
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Well, I'm off to Holiday Valley, NY where I'm going to meet some LIBERAL Canadian friends for a day and a half of skiing. Talk to you-all later....






U no MM, i've had a terrible Cold!, yup been going on three weeks now, head all plugged up, maybe it's a sinus infection??
TravisR
February 21, 2007
Member since 12/4/2006 🔗
79 posts
those words wern't mine in all caps, straight from the NWS. Sure it didn't nor will it set any records (although will be in the top 10 coldest per the NWS), but it was interesting how we FLIP from SUPER RECORD SETTING HEAT wondering if we will even be able to ski all trails, to WAY BELOW NORMAL with tons of snowmaking temps that revitalized the ski industry in the mid-atlantic.

I'm just glad it turned cold. Since we seemed to get political...i received this the other day....even if you are liberal, you have to at least laugh at this.

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SCWVA
February 21, 2007
Member since 07/13/2004 🔗
1,051 posts
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MM - Well, I'm off to Holiday Valley, NY where I'm going to meet some LIBERAL Canadian friends for a day and a half of skiing. Talk to you-all later....



JimK - The single biggest threat to the skiing/riding industry is not global warming - its TICKET SALES (or lack thereof!). Want to enjoy skiing/riding? Want local areas to stay open longer? GO SKIING (or boarding)!!! If you come, they will stay open - its as simple as that!




Too funny. Tomorrow, I'm actually going to support my local ski area (Whitetail) with two of my liberal Canadian friends.
Jim
February 21, 2007
Member since 11/22/1999 🔗
317 posts
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Tomorrow, I'm actually going to support my local ski area (Whitetail) with two of my liberal Canadian friends.




Excellent!! I will be going "further afield" to ski at Wisp this weekend with a group of ten (including two Canadians! Although I would hardly call my wife a "liberal" Canadian - they have their conservatives too!).

Jim (not JimK)
SkiBumMSP
February 21, 2007
Member since 12/8/2004 🔗
224 posts
Quote:

Quote:

Tomorrow, I'm actually going to support my local ski area (Whitetail) with two of my liberal Canadian friends.




Excellent!! I will be going "further afield" to ski at Wisp this weekend with a group of ten (including two Canadians! Although I would hardly call my wife a "liberal" Canadian - they have their conservatives too!).

Jim (not JimK)




Well, I'll be at Massanutten, supporting my local hill as well, but in a different way (not necessarily financially).
Clay
February 21, 2007
Member since 04/11/2006 🔗
555 posts
Here's a cool resource from NOAA. If you want to try to forecast when the snow will be gone, check out the 'Snow Melt' map. If you want to know exactly what wax to use, check out the 'Average Snowpack Temp' map.

NOAA National Snow Analyses Page

Clay
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