Thats the f-casted low for 1663' at Saranac lake,ny...lake placid area.Watching the weather over the years as i do I have noticed that Whiteface gets some good early lake effect & have good early conditions...but this place is friggin cold!..global warming is thier friend!!..They ave out not much more than Canaan but I have always been impressed by thier fast start. This weekend storm thread that we have been discussing here on dcski talks about the storm that will prob bring a good amount of snow to Whiteface...anybody going to be there?