JohnL et all I was worried about the "hijacking the thread" rule so I thought I'd start a new one. Question: what ski resorts- out west, overseas, or here at home- are overrated? Feel free to debate any suggestions made, just don't make the debate personal!
My vote: Jackson Hole. Round II:
Jacskon Hole is for sissies.
Ok, here's where I was coming from: Jackson Hole has advanced terrain, but while some of their double diamonds are steeper than their blues and some of their single diamonds are worthy of recommendation (I'd suggest hitting Bivouac Woods and Bird-in-the-Hand as two very nice runs), it's nothing that you can't find at any other ski resort. Alta and Tower 3 chutes, Moran Face, Saratoga Bowl, these are standard blacks and double blacks for out west.
When you stake your reputation on something, you better deliver. JH doesn't in my opinion. I have routinely hit terrain as steep or steeper at other resorts who don't brag nearly as much about their expert terrain as JH does, and that's why I was and am disappointed in the mountain. Case in point: Winter Park in CO brags about it's mogul skiing on Mary Jane, and I'd say they have every right to. Their mogul runs are some of the best I've ever skied.
On the other hand, mountains that don't brag about stuff but deliver are even more worthy of praise. Northstar doesn't bellow about it's glade skiing, but it's phenomenal. And Alpine Meadows nearby ironically has some black diamonds that are steeper than their double-blacks, and both of which are steeper than JH. But Alpine advertises itself as a homely, family ski place, not as an expert hangout, and consequently when you find yourself rippin' on eight inches of fresh pow in the trees down a 45 degree line that's about fifteen or twenty feet wide, you're thinkin "NICE!!!"
So my opinion of JH is based on what it's reputation was all about, and frankly, I didn't think it lived up to it's reputation. Whistler lives up to it. Winter Park lives up to it. The snow in Utah is as legendary in person as it is in the legends. JH? Doesn't do it.
As far as cold goes- I stepped out of the tram on and was blown backward by a 70 mph wind; other locals assured me that was pretty typical January weather. The day before the wind was over 100 mph on the summit and still they ran the tram. There's not many mountains in the world where you expect to get knocked over by hurricane-force winds upon exiting the summit lift. The other consequence of this gentle breeze was that the fresh powder at the summit was windblown cement.
All this said, JohnL I respect your opinion too about JH. Just want to keep things lively!