Banned from skiing due to comments?
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Ullr
February 9, 2009
Member since 11/27/2004 🔗
531 posts
Saw this & it made me think of the whole "stinks" thing......

http://www.sugarloaftoday.com/chat/viewtopic.php?t=2415

Guy makes a comment on an internet forum, the resort doesn't like it and bans him from both of their ski areas in ME. I was just at Sunday River & the Loaf a few weeks ago. Both real nice places, but I can't tell you the amount of bad-mouthing I heard of Mgmt going on by employees (after hours at the bar of course).

Kind of goes full circle for me, and the post a couple of weeks ago. The guy's post was in bad taste, but banning him from the ski area for life? Extreme or justified?
David
February 9, 2009
Member since 06/28/2004 🔗
2,444 posts
Wow, that's pretty crazy. I'd venture to say that is fairly extreme. Could you imagine the amount of people that would be banned from ski areas if resorts banned people because of stuff they said on the internet?

Hmmm, I think I might have found a new job opportunity. I could be a bounty hunter/hitman for a ski resort. Ski all day, read up on ski forums all night. Heck, I spend enough time on the internet already.....
Roger Z
February 9, 2009
Member since 01/16/2004 🔗
2,181 posts
If that was a webpage sponsored and maintained by Boyne Inc., and if that was not the first offense (or, more to the point, this guy was also causing trouble on the mountain or was an ex-employee or something), well then... it's private property after all. If we were all paying Scott for something- say dinner every night (hey Scott, whaddya think? smile )- and then we got on Scott's page here and started ripping him, then yeah he would be justified in banning us from the site, or no longer serving us dinner, or both.

I'm partially inclined at this stage to give the benefit of the doubt, simply because we don't know the whole story. Yes, if this was the only thing this guy had ever said about the ski resort, then this is probably overkill. And if it isn't a resort-sponsored thread then it's pretty dang creepy knowing resort managers are watching the sites looking for season pass offenders. I'd opt for more info though before making a final decision on whether this was crazy or not.
David
February 9, 2009
Member since 06/28/2004 🔗
2,444 posts
Dinner at Scott's eh?? What time??
kwillg6
February 10, 2009
Member since 01/18/2005 🔗
2,040 posts
Originally Posted By: David
Dinner at Scott's eh?? What time??

Hey Great! Count me in.
guyforget
February 10, 2009
Member since 01/20/2009 🔗
24 posts
I caught wind of that last week on epicski and think its completely absurd. Sure the guy made an off-color remark that was probably better left unsaid, even if it rang of truth to at least some of his audience. It doesnt justify having his pass revoked and being threatened w/ legal action if he returns to one of their properties. Their reaction was just as over-the-top as his action that got him into this mess.

You cant police the internet, especially on unaffiliated, unofficial forum sites.

Im moving to Maine this spring. This incident will definitely influence where I spend my $$ while skiing up there.
Ullr
February 10, 2009
Member since 11/27/2004 🔗
531 posts
Looks like they have met with him, and given him his pass back. When I read the article the comment on the conditions and the skier did seem out of place, and his assumption that the resort was just "covering up" did seem on the surface to have some truth to it. Everyone being upset over the girls death did charge the situation, but the website itself is not owned by Boyne or Sugarloaf. They did go on to say that this person has been a thorn in their side for years (even prior to the Boyne buy-out). Nice to know they worked it out though.
Ullr
February 10, 2009
Member since 11/27/2004 🔗
531 posts
Even if the mountain managment did leave something to be desired, Sugarloaf is an awsome place, and definately worth the New England Pass (Sugarloaf, Sunday River & Loon). Have fun in Maine!
Jim
February 10, 2009
Member since 11/22/1999 🔗
317 posts
I actually read through the entire thread (all 8 pages!). Sugarloaf management recognized they overreacted to an insensitive comment. They said things they should not have said and took action in haste. But (BIG but), they recognized their haste, took ownership of the missteps and made it right. Speaks very well of Sugarloaf management. In addition, the poster recognized the insensitive nature of his comments and he also took ownership of his missteps and apologized. Moreover, he did not try to leverage Sugarloaf managements "mea culpa" into a grab bag. A good result by cool heads all around.

ps: when is dinner at Scott's house? grin
Roger Z
February 10, 2009
Member since 01/16/2004 🔗
2,181 posts
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ps: when is dinner at Scott's house?


Aww, ya know Scott. Unless he gets to cook (and provide beer) for AT LEAST 30 people, he's just not up for it. grin

Sounds like things were resolved at the Loaf. Good to hear, hopefully both sides will take stock of their actions and do better next time.
guyforget
February 11, 2009
Member since 01/20/2009 🔗
24 posts
Good on them for working it out.

You just cant play police on the internet. Even if they ran the site - they ban him from the forum, not the mountain. I just think thats absurd. People can, and will, say things you disagree with. Get over it.

To me its like if I were to monitor conversations of patrons in my restaurant, then ban the ones with whom I disagreed or disapproved. Even then, theyd be on premise for the offending conversation. Its almost like if I listened in on conversations that people had about my restaurant while in other restaurants... holy moly. Thats a tangled web and a slippery slope and all sorts of other crap.

Its good for everyone that they worked it out. Unfortunate that it blew up the way it did, especially with such a tragedy on the other end of this mess.
JamieGrose79
February 13, 2009
Member since 01/10/2009 🔗
108 posts
Massanutten can take my ski pass away for life. Ohh wait I don't have one cause I don't wanna get ripped off for a lift pass!
guyforget
February 15, 2009
Member since 01/20/2009 🔗
24 posts
Originally Posted By: JamieGrose79
Massanutten can take my ski pass away for life. Ohh wait I don't have one cause I don't wanna get ripped off for a lift pass!


Dead horse, dude, we get it.
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