Winter not over yet...even in Virginia!
March 19, 2007
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It's supposed to get up to 70 degrees at wintergreen today, with a chance of showers! But, check out the forecasted high/lows for the next 4 days:
Fri: 42/18 (chance of snow)
Sat: 40/16
Sun: 41/18
Mon: 47/26
The brief cold spell won't make any difference, the season is basically OVER at WG.
I was just there and conditions are awesome!!!!!!!!!!
100% open, and great coverage. The snow is in excellent shape. WG is rarely open this late with conditions this great. They could easily make till the end of March and into April.
You should go and check it out!!!!!!
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The brief cold spell won't make any difference, the season is basically OVER at WG.
Damn Masher.....you cant WAIT for winter to die can you 
Whitetail could definitely use a few inches. What are the chances they'll blow some on top of any natural they get?
Hey, I'd like a bit more than window dressing on the slopes if they do!
One year I hit whitetail probably in late Feb midweek and it must have previous to my visit been a bit warm, followed by solid cold.
Before really taking any warm up on any slope, I headed over with two friends to Exhibition -- and from the chair the trail looked soft and fluffy...
I remember thinking, "ooh, well, that's does look nice..."
So we get going down the slope, and before we made it past 2 moguls, we realized the entire slope had been covered in about 1/4 inch of fresh snow -- and underneath was pure solid icy 'hard pack'...
Not pure ice, and not just hard packed up snow -- but you know the stuff that is nearly ice but not quite.
Oh man, this was the WORST thing I've ever tried to get down, I mean it was just nearly unskiable.
And I have to add that I am by NO MEANS even a decent mogul skier... so you have to take that into acct.
But one of my friends was actually a pretty good mogul skiers and finally after 20 or 30 thirty hours of being lost in them icy moguls, when we finally hacked our way out and found the bottom...
He just looked at me and shook his head..."never again"...
I mean it was that bad...
Wow.
So, never again shall I look upon fluff late season and think: "Oh that's all fluffy and nice"
Beware the window dressing, that's all I'm saying...
I'm suprised that lower cliffhanger is still open, but obviously I am glad to hear it. Hopefully I'll be able to get out there in the next few days.
No, I hate for Winter to end, but I want to call attention to the CHANGING climate. The ski season of 2006-2007 will go down as another mild Winter with RECORD warm weather during the first half of the ski season and a few days of RECORD (or near record) warm weather at the end of the ski season. It was only the unusual cold spell of Late Jan-thru-Feb that saved the ski season. Unfortunately, in the future we can't count on such an unusual cold spell to save ski seasons. Based on everything that I've read, we're going to see lots of VERY MILD Winters.
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No, I hate for Winter to end, but I want to call attention to the CHANGING climate. The ski season of 2006-2007 will go down as another mild Winter with RECORD warm weather during the first half of the ski season and a few days of RECORD (or near record) warm weather at the end of the ski season. It was only the unusual cold spell of Late Jan-thru-Feb that saved the ski season. Unfortunately, in the future we can't count on such an unusual cold spell to save ski seasons. Based on everything that I've read, we're going to see lots of VERY MILD Winters.
thank YOU for your INPUT it was most HELPFUL
aye, you may be right....
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No, I hate for Winter to end, but I want to call attention to the CHANGING climate. The ski season of 2006-2007 will go down as another mild Winter with RECORD warm weather during the first half of the ski season and a few days of RECORD (or near record) warm weather at the end of the ski season. It was only the unusual cold spell of Late Jan-thru-Feb that saved the ski season. Unfortunately, in the future we can't count on such an unusual cold spell to save ski seasons. Based on everything that I've read, we're going to see lots of VERY MILD Winters.
thank YOU for your INPUT it was most HELPFUL
MM is A caricarture of THE old joke about the pessimistic kid WHO, when sitting IN a room full of toys started crying. The mom ASKS "why are you crying" AND the child said "because I just KNOW that someday someone IS going to take ALL these toys away from me!"
Here's been A great eight weeks of skiing back east AND all MM can do IS lament that sometime, someday, in some way or another winters might not BE as good as they once were.
It IS, however, kind OF fun to just randomly capitalize every letter IN an occasional word. Especially since IT just aggravates readers WITHOUT really adding any value TO the post. MM might be onto something with that neat little writing trick.
roger UNOWUT? the ohio river is EXPECTED to crest AT 36' here in wheeling...WAIT while i run outside to check..........
NOPE not flooded yet BUT wait UNOWUT it doesn't COME over the curb until about FOURTY-TWO feet, but it sure is MUDDY
Oh well, time (and more research) will tell.......in terms of how this ski season ends and the outlook for future Winters.
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MM is A caricarture of THE old joke about the pessimistic kid WHO, when sitting IN a room full of toys started crying. The mom ASKS "why are you crying" AND the child said "because I just KNOW that someday someone IS going to take ALL these toys away from me!"
Here's been A great eight weeks of skiing back east AND all MM can do IS lament that sometime, someday, in some way or another winters might not BE as good as they once were.
It IS, however, kind OF fun to just randomly capitalize every letter IN an occasional word. Especially since IT just aggravates readers WITHOUT really adding any value TO the post. MM might be onto something with that neat little writing trick.
THATS hysterical. YOU guys are BAD 
HEY, this IS fun
YES, I agree this IS fun! BUT, it is sure HARD to type this WAY!
HAhaHAhaHAhaHAha
Which is better? Delusion or realism?
Speaking of Winter not being over yet...Check this out:
Tonight: Periods of rain showers, mainly between 7pm and 10pm, then periods of snow showers between 10pm and 4am, then periods of rain possibly mixed with freezing rain after 4am. Low around 28. North wind between 5 and 11 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Little or no ice accumulation expected. Little or no snow accumulation expected.
Friday: Periods of snow. High near 31. North wind around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.
Friday Night: Periods of snow showers, mainly before 10pm. Low around 21. North wind between 6 and 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.
Saturday: A chance of snow showers, mainly between 1pm and 4pm. Cloudy, with a high near 28. Northwest wind between 9 and 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
Saturday Night: A slight chance of snow showers before 10pm. Partly cloudy, with a low around 13. West wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
Looks like WINTER to me!!!
Yes, but it's going to get WARM with possible rain after the weekend is over. So, the brief cold spell isn't really going to help WG that much.
The weather is really weird this year..
The current forecast from NWS call for 5"-9" of snow during the day and 1"-3" of snow at night tomorrow at Whitetail!!
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The weather is really weird this year..
The current forecast from NWS call for 5"-9" of snow during the day and 1"-3" of snow at night tomorrow at Whitetail!!
Stop lying snowglobe. IT is NOT going to SNOW nearly a FOOT at whiteTAIL tomorrow 
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The weather is really weird this year..
The current forecast from NWS call for 5"-9" of snow during the day and 1"-3" of snow at night tomorrow at Whitetail!!
Stop lying snowglobe. IT is NOT going to SNOW nearly a FOOT at whiteTAIL tomorrow
however, knowing the weather in the highlands, Tline could get 10" when they predict 3 tho 
TiLiNe, YoU ReAlLy ArE TaKiNg ThIs To ThE ExTrEmE!!!!
I agree, the weather has been strange to say the least. While the predicted snow-storm is most welcome, it's too bad that the weather is going to warm back up (with a chance of rain) by early next week. Perhaps the weather will stay relatively cold next week at some of the higher elevation ski areas.
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TiLiNe, YoU ReAlLy ArE TaKiNg ThIs To ThE ExTrEmE!!!!
....ok. i am sorry. i will no longer express my emotions in font nor capitalization 
Well, I agree with the original poster -- winter is not over yet, at least this weekend, seem like it will be another great weekend on the slope.
More NWS lastest snow accumulation forecast for Friday (day & night):
Whitetail (Mercersburg, PA) : 6"-12"
Liberty ( Fairfield, PA ) : 4"-6"
Roundtop ( Lewisberry, PA ) : 4"-8"
Wisp ( Mchenry, MD ) : 3"-7"
TLine & Canaan ( Davis, WV ) : 3"-7"
7Springs (Champion,PA) : 3"-6"
Blueknob ( Claysburg, PA ) : 5"-11"
Snowshoe ( Snowshoe, WV ) : 2"-3"
The question is... why did I book lodging at Snowshoe!!
I was just looking at my Accuweather Main Man's website and he is predicting considerable snow, with the "local" bullseye being 18" at Camelback in PA.
He thinks the major east coast cities will get considerably less, say 1+ inch in Washington, and higher amounts up I95.
But if the track of the storm shifts 50 miles or so, Katy Bar The Door.
Hope it all pans out. I'll be making my runs with a number of DCSkiers at the Snowy Luau at Timberline.
GO FOR IT! By the way, Joe sees a cold and snowy period for late March and early April.
The Colonel
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Yes, but it's going to get WARM with possible rain after the weekend is over. So, the brief cold spell isn't really going to help WG that much.
Sorry....forgot to specify that this weather was for Davis, WV....
hehehe. Glad to see I'm not the only one who pays for Accuweather's "main man". He's great. He's not always right be he is very, very good at explaining why he thinks what he predicts is going to happen. And he doesn't just rely on the models - he THINKS about it.
Clay
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I was just looking at my Accuweather Main Man's website and he is predicting considerable snow, with the "local" bullseye being 18" at Camelback in PA.
aww man, now I gotta re-think my previous tline plans! camelback is only like an hour more away than tline is for me
Here's Henry's snow prediction (also from Accuweather):
He did a pretty good job on the snowfall amounts from the clipper last week. Whoever is skiing in the path of this baby is going to have some nice skiing this weekend!! I do hope that 3-6" fringe extends a little farther southwest to Snowshoe....
By the way MM, I know it will just GET warm next week and MELT, so no need to remind us.
Long term, it looks like we will be alternating between warm and cold shots from now until early April. There will be at least one more good shot of winter before Snowshoe closes on April 8, and let's hope it aligns with some moisture! When I look at analogues with past seasons, wild up/down swings in March/April almost always are accompanied by some pretty good snow dumps (I have been the benefactor of three or four 8"+ dumps at Snowshoe in late March and early April). Last week's clipper is one example, and this weekend's snowfall is another. I am fairly certain we will see at least one more before winter calls it quits.
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I do hope that 3-6" fringe extends a little farther southwest to Snowshoe....
hey, maybe Snowshoe experiences the "upslope effect" i re-read that article for extra stoking
Wow! That's an impressive map! Of course, snowfall amounts are extremely difficult to predict, especially this time of year. In many areas the high temps will likely be right on the edge between ice and snow, also the track of the storm will be critical.
It's already below freezing at the Pointy Knob Station. Can't wait to see tomorrow morning's snow report.
Positive thinking fellow skiers. POSITIVE thinking
Due to the valley's elevation, I expect their storm snow total to equal that of the poconos. The shoe may scrape an additional few inches out over forcast amounts as well but they may be too far south for major accumulations, but hope I'm wrong. Nomatter what, it's gonna be a GrEaTpArTyWeEkEnD!!!!
What might be MORE useful is a graph that shows the % water content expected in that thar snow...
Go for the driest/deepest snow... that would be ideal.
Where's the Valley folks this morning? What's the story coming out of CV?
I found a backcountry downhill run just north of town last weekend. All I need now is a foot of snow (which might take years around here). It's about 150 feet of vertical and maybe 40 feet wide, takes a mile to hike back to it. Pathetically small, yes, but it's entirely possible that my first "backcountry" ski experience will be on a bluff overlooking the Missouri River on the MO/KS border. Unless, that is, my buddies and I can wrangle up a decent map or a good guide for Wolf Creek next weekend (and the snow out there hasn't settled into a solid icepack).
Hey, ya gotta start somewhere, right?
Ice storm overnight here -- had about a quarter inch of ice on my car and on tree limbs, etc. -- but the roads are fine. Changed to sleet a while ago -- should be all snow shortly.
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Ice storm overnight here -- had about a quarter inch of ice on my car and on tree limbs, etc. -- but the roads are fine. Changed to sleet a while ago -- should be all snow shortly.
thanks jonjon! any chance you can keep us updated throughout the day? altho I can kinda tell by the tline cam thats on the picnic tables outside the lodge, but right now the lens is covered in ice
The 3-6 inch band looks like it now extends to the Shoe - let's keep our finger's crossed... and look at that little 6-12 inch band over T-Line
Everybody drive safely.
Clay
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But one of my friends was actually a pretty good mogul skiers and finally after 20 or 30 thirty hours of being lost in them icy moguls, when we finally hacked our way out and found the bottom...
Wow. I once was lost in any icy mogul field for 20 or 30 minutes, but 30 hours! That means you started at the top of exhibition, and they closed the resort, blew snow, groomed the other trails, reopened, and you were still only halfway down! I hope you at least had energy bars and handwarmers!
Sleet/snow mix here in Oakland, Maryland -- probably a half inch of accumulation. Spoke with a realtor in Canaan about a half hour ago and he said the sleet was transitioning over to snow.
Cold, cold, cold here in Richmond. THIS is unusual For us This time OF year!
The winter is not over at Blue Knob in PA. We already received 4-5 inches of snow today. They are calling for up to a foot of snow before it's all over
. The conditions should be great this weekend. We will also be on mid-week rates all weekend.
Think Snow,
BK Tim
Yes it is Snowing in Virginia...But this relatively young man is heading west...Thats WEST(By God i'll be there) virginia...I Can't take the pressure...Told my Woman that it would take a half foot to get me to take a few days off of work & to hump that 8 hour Dr up there... We Might get a foot!...So tomorrow at 4am I'm Gone Fishin..For Snow & Fun!!+ I just Wouldn't be able to enjoy my spring fishing without properly saying Goodbye to Ole Man Winter Who has worked so hard to Overcome this GW thang for us
...I'll be at TL Pub Sat Aft Dancin with the hula girls
cool, so how much floor space you got for us at your pad on 32?
Altho if that ice line doesnt move the hell out of WV soon, I might be headin north instead of west.....
The Main part of this storm is latitude affected as can be seen by Blue Knobs snow whereas WV has seen Freezing Rain/Sleet. Snowshoe being further south is lagging behind Canaan.(the 2nd half will be all snow for everyone) Tonite & Tomorrow, Elevation will be the Factor with the Upslope...See You all in Winter Wonderland,Elevation Friendly WV tomorrow!
Just wanted to tell everyone to be careful wherever you are driving to ski. Especially today. Roads will most likely be nasty later on in the moutains.
Just drive safe
OTHer thAN THat HaVe a GREAT weEKeNd
Enjoy the freshies everyone!
Looks like at least 3 inches by 3:30pm here in Winchester, VA. Not bad!
Woody
On the drive to Snowshoe Friday night, the VA mountains west of Staunton were getting pounded. They had significantly more snow on the ground than Snowshoe did at the time.
Do you go through Monterey?
i.e. get off 81 to 262, 250, 220, 84, 92, 66?
If not try it I am making it TOW from the Oilville exit in exactly 3.25 hours (clear roads of course).
Oilville! I love that place. I work on a big campus just a few miles from there (I'm sure you know for who
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Clay
We go through Monterey, but stay on 250 all the way to Bartow.
I do 64W - 81N - 262/275W Bypass - 250W - 28/92 - 66 through Cass to SS. I like that route the best, though it seems to have a few extra mountain crossings on 250 past Monterey. I believe it is the shortest distance, but time-wise is about the same as the other routes.
I have done the 250 - 220 - 84 - 92 - 66 route before (goes through Hot Springs) and that is also good.
