May 18, 2005
Here are some interesting facts to add to a discussion we were having a few months back about decreasing snowfall totals in the past few decades. Apparently childhood memories can be deceptive. I found the clip below on the whitegrass site (sorry if it doesn't remain active for long):
Don't seem to be any global warming in CV
, think i'm gonna buy a great big new SUV
I thought the winter of 59-60 was the worst one in recorded history in WV? Snowfalls over 300 inches, Pickens was cut off from civilization, etc.
Anyway, that was extremely interesting. It kind of coincides with some stats I've seen at the NOAA website, that weather has been tending cooler in WV over the last 30 years (west of the Allegheny divide, mostly in August-October, but still trended down about .5-1 degree F). Would be interesting to see stats elsewhere, like at WHITETOP and BUCKHORN.
I predict Moonshine Mountain will be getting 300 plus inches every winter very soon.
Here in Florida, no snow again this winter. I don't know how anyone can live down here...
Apparently childhood memories can be deceptive.
8" of snow is knee deep when you're only 3' tall. 18" of snow is waist deep! Sometimes I wish I was only 3' tall!
Is the 260" totals from 1996?
Well enough. Has anyone an idea of how to track the snowpack's longevity? What I have in mind is a sort of inch-day unit. 5" that didn't melt for 20 days is better than 10" gone in a day.
The NWS tracks snowpack data. I think they're conservative in their methodology- seems like there's always snow on the ground after they say it's melted- but as long as their methodology is consistent across time, that's what matters. Not sure if they go back 60 years or not at CV though.
Although Canaan Valley receives a lot of snow, it seems to me that the snowpack (on average) doesn't build up as deep as it used to (or last as long). Granted, it's still plenty cold in the CV area overall, but freak winter warm spells seem more common over the past 10 years or so. The snowpack in the woods gets nearly wiped-out over and over again during the course of a typical winter (even though the actual snowfall total for the winter is high). That's the big difference that I've noticed.
I will never forget 95/96!Staying in Davis many times that winter with friends who lived there & worked at TL.Stepping off a trail to chest deep snow.Bouncing off the snowdrifts walking home from a night at davis Inn!I remember the gas station(Davis plaza?)posting the snow totals for the year & i think they added up 272 to 278...somwhere around there.There was a lift operater at the top of TL that counted 320" for that year.If you use the 260 for the 3200'valley & the 320 at 4200'as a snow model then the 162" snowfall this year(4"may snowfall made total 162!)meant the tops recieved close to 200 inches.Good year.The 155"yearly ave posted at TL is pretty much on the money as a true ave between top & bottom.
I was a little wrong...a little less than an inch at 3200' fell in may.The total went up to 161.8 during the end of aprils snow.Was talking to my neighbor near MPC on may the 8th & he informed me that he could still see snow at the top of the mountain just a few days before."Almost Heaven" get er built!
Not to shift focus, but did it just snow in Utah? I was looking at Solitude's webcam out of boredom and it seems like they just shovelled the sidewalks this morning (May 17th). They are reporting an 8 foot base at mid-mountain at this time. Utah clocked in over 700 inches this year, if it snowed at all this month (which it looks like it did). Anyone know how the Sierra did? The Wasatch and the Sierra bore the brunt of the winter weather out west.
Check out telemarktips.com and under the message board discussions you will see one for "Observations from the wasatch". they have probably gotten 30-40 inches in MAY at higher elevations. Some guys dug a pit to study snowpack and it was 13 FEET deep. all natural at 8500' probably a few feet deeper at 11,000'. Oh to be in UTAH.
Yes it is still snowing in Utah. Here is picture taken today at the base of Snowbird. Snowbird remains open on weekends through Memorial Day. Might have snow on the ground through much of the summer.
yup been skiing almost every weekend (I got sick one weekend). Was there Friday (it was a one-shot deal now just the weekends) and Sat the past weekend. About4-6" of *very* wet/heavy powder (several minor slides too) you just had to attack it with big fast turns but it was still a lot of fun. Last night we had a very windy storm but I woke up to fresh snow outside my home, and the 'bird got about 6" I think.
We'ver heard rumors they will continue into June. They certainly have enough snow!!! I'll sure be there!
Crush are you still skiing those Volkl's on that stuff? Would a fatter ski do better?
I'll fix it for ya Colonel,
Crush, you do live the life, what is it, about a nine month season?
Amazing how we (I?) take it for granted in winter, and then by June am missing it terribly. First 90 degree humid day always gets me thinking about fall, and being down in Florida right now, nothing sounds better than going to pay Crush a visit.