Who is out of the gate and making early season snow?
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RodneyBD
one month ago (edited one month ago)
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Quick check of the cams:

TL: of course

7S: surprisingly looks like no

Laurel: no

Wisp: surprisingly yes

CV: no

BK: no

RT Liberty WT HV: not surprising, cams aren't even turned on it. 

Shoe yes and didn't check VA hills, not fair to expect them to hit the switch yet. 

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
one month ago
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Wintergreen and Massanutten turned on snowguns once it got cold enough.  Hard to say whether they are thinking it's a test, or actually a start to building base given how warm it's likely to get in the next week or two.
Scott - DCSki Editor
one month ago
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Snowshoe has also been making snow.  I think Seven Springs was taking advantage of the cold to doing some snowmaking testing vs. any effort to lay down a base, as they expect temps to warm up later this week.

And further south, Sugar Mountain in North Carolina opened today!

natehurst
one month ago
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 Wintergreen sent out a promo email today including language saying it was just a test of the new TA setup:

Over the past few days, we’ve been testing out the new TechnoAlpin fan guns and they are firing on all cylinders, getting us one step closer to turning on the big system. 

Still was fun to see them on the webcams! 

marzNC wrote:

Wintergreen and Massanutten turned on snowguns once it got cold enough.  Hard to say whether they are thinking it's a test, or actually a start to building base given how warm it's likely to get in the next week or two.
needawax
one month ago
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Word on the Laurel Resorts (hv / lm / 7s) is late wed into thurs / fri of this week 11/26 to start making snow. And by making snow, that likely means testing out important pieces of equipment as the long term forecast doesn't look like it accommodates laying down a lot in this area.  That could change though.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago
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Massanutten started snowguns on Southern Comfort and Lower Showtime tonight.  The next 10 nights should have periods cold enough for snowmaking.

Wintergreen is also blasting snow.

Laurel Hill Crazie
29 days ago
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Laurel Mountain and Seven Springs this morning 11/28

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marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago
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Looks like Massanutten wants to open Upper Paradice and Ridgecrest to Upper Showtime sooner rather than later.  That would really help to spread out the intermediates during early season.

Massanutten webcam, 10am, November 28, 2025:

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wfyurasko
29 days ago
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@MarzNC My recollection is Massanutten doesn't open all the Lift 6 (I don't remember the new name) slopes until after the new year historically. Has that changed since expansion?
nickhaas212
28 days ago
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VA resort predictions? 12/5 or 12/12 for opening? Either way, I will be there.
nickhaas212
28 days ago
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VA resort predictions? 12/5 or 12/12 for opening? Either way, I will be there.
needawax
28 days ago
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HV has been making snow since late wed nite into today.  Just on select areas where they typically begin.  Snowing a bit at the top.

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marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
28 days ago
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wfyurasko wrote:

@MarzNC My recollection is Massanutten doesn't open all the Lift 6 (I don't remember the new name) slopes until after the new year historically. Has that changed since expansion?

 In short, yes.

When the Peak Express was installed as the replacement for the old Lift 6 quad, the entire upper mountain layout was changed significantly.  Ridgecrest and Mueller's Mile are blue trails.  Before Lift 6 only had two black trails.  Paradice was always last to open because it took the most snowmaking and there wasn't enough pumping power to run snowguns on DJ and Paradice at the same time.  Building a 2-mile pipeline a few years before that means no issues with water supply even when 36-48 hr periods of snowmaking are possible.  Now they can run 100+ snowguns simultaneously all over the mountain when the weather is helpful.

They also replaced the old stickguns on Upper Showtime with huge tower mounted fan guns.  Not only can more snow be made, it's a lot quieter.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
28 days ago
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nickhaas212 wrote:

VA resort predictions? 12/5 or 12/12 for opening? Either way, I will be there.

 I'm guessing 12/5, at least for pass holders at Massanutten.  Then Sat, 12/6, for the public.  But even possible to open 12/4 for pass holders and the public on 12/5.  Going to be good snowmaking weather every night and into the morning for the next week.

Stephen
26 days ago
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I worry about these early cold spells, because they use up their snowmaking budget and can't make it through the seemingly inevitable unseasonal warm spell that follows.
needawax
26 days ago
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It is "mild" today for the laurel resorts, but the next 10 looks like they won't lose what they've done so far....  just looking at the lows:

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HVdad
26 days ago
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Looks like the mid- and northern West Virginia, western Maryland, and Laurel Highlands resorts will make out okay in the next several days. Lower Virginia resorts like Massanutten and Wintergreen may need to shut off the valves for a bit.
marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
26 days ago
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At 7:30 this morning, it was 25 at the base at Massanutten, 22 up top.  Snowmaking on DJ, Showtime, Southern Comfort, and the tubing hill.

Wintergreen is blowing this morning as well.

Stephen
26 days ago
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Weather report says it's going to be cold for the next 10 days.  That will be great if it stays winter after that, but comparing to previous years, there's only so much cold weather.  So much cold weather so early says to me that there will be a big warm spell in the middle.  With all the resorts facing the pressure to get everything open, especially by Christmas, there's a solid chance that all their snow making will get wiped out, and then we'll see some conservative snow making after that which means we won't see a lot of terrain open and probably not many moguls.  Therefore, I don't see these early cold spells as a blessing.  It's better if it stays warm until Christmas, and then settles in for a consistently cold winter.
marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
25 days ago (edited 25 days ago)
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Just saw on Facebook that Massanutten has a Latitude 90 snowmaking box from SMI on property.  It's pointed at the tubing hill.  With that technology, can make snow even when temps are in the 40s.

Ober in TN opened their tubing hill for Thanksgiving.  Ober has 14 snowmaking boxes as of a few months ago, mostly Latitude 90.  Added two to the dozen they were using last season.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
25 days ago
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From the drone video on the Massanutten FB page today, it looks like they started blowing Lower MakAttack already.  Used to leave that for much later.  When they do open, will be twice as many options for where to ski than when it was only Southern Comfort, Lower Showtime, and Diamond Jim during the first few weeks.  Upper Showtime, Upper Paradice to Ridgecrest, Mueller's Mile in addition to Diamond Jim means that intermediates will be interested in riding the Peak lift to the top.

Wonder what's happening, or not, on Yee Ha?

natehurst
25 days ago
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Wintergreen is going to open on Friday -- lift tickets now for sale on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Hope to see some of y'all there! 

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wgo
24 days ago
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Massanutten is opening this saturday.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
24 days ago
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wgo wrote:

Massanutten is opening this saturday.

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danDMV
24 days ago
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Out of curiosity - how does opening weekend typically fare for these slopes? (Went skiing a few times last season, but mainly in Feb - never done opening weekend anywhere before).

Eager to check out a few places but understand that crowds/limited opening of routes early season may make some more busy than others.
Timberline I know will probably have the best conditions - but given crowds, would Wisp/Wintergreen be perhaps worth exploring the first weekend instead?

wgo
24 days ago
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Pre-Xmas holiday things generally are not crowded - it's only us diehards out there until then.
wgo
24 days ago
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 I DM's Mnut on FB and got the following from them:

Slopes Scheduled to Open: Paul’s Way Southern Comfort Diamond Jim Mueller’s Mile Showtime MassTransit Yee-Haw Lower Nutten-To-It (with rail features) This list is subject to change due to weather.

marzNC wrote:

From the drone video on the Massanutten FB page today, it looks like they started blowing Lower MakAttack already.  Used to leave that for much later.  When they do open, will be twice as many options for where to ski than when it was only Southern Comfort, Lower Showtime, and Diamond Jim during the first few weeks.  Upper Showtime, Upper Paradice to Ridgecrest, Mueller's Mile in addition to Diamond Jim means that intermediates will be interested in riding the Peak lift to the top.

Wonder what's happening, or not, on Yee Ha?

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
23 days ago
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Massanutten is not only blowing all the blue trails off the top, they have stated snowmaking on Easy Street aka Geronimo already!  As of 7am this morning, it's 26º at the base and 23º at the top.  Pretty much ideal wet bulb even is somewhat higher humidity.

Beginners doing lessons will have Paul's Way and Southern Comfort.  Intermediates just starting out on blues will have Lower Showtime and Mueller's Mile.  More adventurous intermediates and advanced folks not only have Diamond Jim, but also should be able to lap using Mass Transit from Ridgecrest starting on Upper Paradice since Yee-Ha is supposed to be open too.   From the drone footage on FB, in addition to putting small features on Lower Nutten-To-It to start with, it looks like Pacesetter also has snow on it already.  Quite an amazing opening weekend!

If I weren't already on my way to Colorado as planned months ago, I'd probably be driving up to Mnut to ski there this weekend.

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natehurst
23 days ago
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 To give you an idea of an average opening day ... I made it up to Wisp for their opening day last year, and I eagerly set my alarm early, got there an hour ahead of time to "beat the line" and I beat the ticketing staff to the office. I didn't share a chair with anybody all day. It's really just those of us who spent the last nine months jonesing for a fix. 

danDMV wrote:

Out of curiosity - how does opening weekend typically fare for these slopes? (Went skiing a few times last season, but mainly in Feb - never done opening weekend anywhere before).

Eager to check out a few places but understand that crowds/limited opening of routes early season may make some more busy than others.
Timberline I know will probably have the best conditions - but given crowds, would Wisp/Wintergreen be perhaps worth exploring the first weekend instead?

natehurst
23 days ago
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On Wintergreen specifically -- I'd wait to hit them up until the next weekend (12th-13th onward), and I say this as a lifelong Wintergreener. They're only going to have 2 1/2 slopes open this weekend. But the coming week has cold temps and they're likely to push to open the rest of A-side (Tyro, Tequila, Big Acorn) ahead of that, since it'll kick off daily ops.

Wisp looks like they're making snow on more than half of the front side, so definitely more terrain there. 

I'm going to Timberline tomorrow for the first time ever. Looking forward to trying it out! 

danDMV wrote:

Out of curiosity - how does opening weekend typically fare for these slopes? (Went skiing a few times last season, but mainly in Feb - never done opening weekend anywhere before).

Eager to check out a few places but understand that crowds/limited opening of routes early season may make some more busy than others.
Timberline I know will probably have the best conditions - but given crowds, would Wisp/Wintergreen be perhaps worth exploring the first weekend instead?

Laurel Hill Crazie
23 days ago
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Lower Wildcat yesterday 12/3

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Scott - DCSki Editor
23 days ago
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I just posted a story on DCSki summarizing current opening plans for Mid-Atlantic resorts, based on the information I could gather as of this morning!

wgo
23 days ago (edited 23 days ago)
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Let us know how you like Timberline! And be sure to go back to check it out when they are 100% open with the glades and natural snow trails available.

natehurst wrote:

I'm going to Timberline tomorrow for the first time ever. Looking forward to trying it out! 

Stephen
22 days ago
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It's usually very limited terrain.  I only go up for moguls these days, and that often doesn't happen until after Christmas...sometimes never.

As an aside, many people don't understand my passion for skiing, so it's nice to see people especially on this forum that have the bug way worse than I do.  I have to be honest, I'm intrigued, but yet some of it is a mystery to me.  There can be some of the best moguls the mid-Atlantic has ever seen, and there's nothing but crickets.  Then, extended season there's a sliver of snow somewhere potentially in West Virginia, and the whole forum lights up in excited chatter.  We can ski for decades even out west, but yet we still get excited for a patch of snow in Virginia on opening or closing day?  That's truly beautiful.  I'm envious to see that much persistent love for something.  I suppose I do experience the same thing where I'll get excited for 6 mogul turns, but that love is less accessible around here.  There was a day when I skied 10 hours on upper and lower Dobie and was worried I wouldn't get one more run before the slope was closed, but those days are past.

danDMV wrote:

Out of curiosity - how does opening weekend typically fare for these slopes? (Went skiing a few times last season, but mainly in Feb - never done opening weekend anywhere before).

Eager to check out a few places but understand that crowds/limited opening of routes early season may make some more busy than others.
Timberline I know will probably have the best conditions - but given crowds, would Wisp/Wintergreen be perhaps worth exploring the first weekend instead?

SkiIsLife
22 days ago
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I'm thinking of going to Timberline tomorrow (Friday) 12/5 from DC/Dupont area. If anyone is interested in heading there with me who lives in DC or is along I-66 and is cool to leave around 7 am, DM me! I'm a 30 yo male intermediate/advanced skier

Patf1engineer
22 days ago
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The wife and I are celebrating 7 Springs opening tomorrow by going to Timberline........
needawax
19 days ago (edited 19 days ago)
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Good on you. Because 7s was annihilated with people yesterday. What was open was very nice, conditions wise, so props to snowmaking and grooming etc.  Lift line attention, loading attention, attention to disruptive visitors - not so much.  It's nice to open on Dec 6, but you gotta be ready.  

imp - DCSki Supporter 
19 days ago
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6 pack down not sure why but crowd is also down, with what is open getting around is hard

needawax
19 days ago
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The 6 ran gracefully on Saturday, not sure what happened there. I'm sure instagram and facebook will tell us promptly.

danDMV
19 days ago (edited 19 days ago)
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Ended up doing Timberline and Wisp - both were quite pleasant with minimal lines for opening weekend!
Timberline had no more than a 2min wait to get on lift. Delightful and mostly open.
Wisp had no line but only 2 lift areas open - quite pleasant to run but you could run all the open routes in an hour with not too much variety. Perhaps worth checking out again once area is fully open as long as lines aren't too long.

Follow-on question:

Anyone know when the Western Territory in Snowshoe typically opens up? 
Stephen
19 days ago
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I think someone else will probably have more info than me, but I'll say that Shay's revenge is usually the last to open. It may be a while. They tend to get Cupp open pretty quickly, though. I'd think if the weather keeps up like this it would be a week or two.

There's usually a grouping of core trails that each resort will build up a huge base on to make it through any thaw. Then when those trails have enough snow, they start bringing up other trails in an order that often is the same each year, but sometimes different, and they aren't brought up with the same base as the core trails.  Once the core trails have enough base, the other trails pop up pretty quickly. They'll have a few trails that are often last, and if there's a big thaw where they have to go back to the core trails, then they kind of start over, and if that pattern keeps happening, some trails never open. The start of this season is pretty amazing though with the next ten days still looking great. Cupp is a high priority trail, whereas Shay's is often the lowest priority.  And then moguls on Shay's (the only reason I go there) are the absolute last thing to happen, weather providing.

danDMV wrote:


Ended up doing Timberline and Wisp - both were quite pleasant with minimal lines for opening weekend!
Timberline had no more than a 2min wait to get on lift. Delightful and mostly open.
Wisp had no line but only 2 lift areas open - quite pleasant to run but you could run all the open routes in an hour with not too much variety. Perhaps worth checking out again once area is fully open as long as lines aren't too long.

Follow-on question:

Anyone know when the Western Territory in Snowshoe typically opens up? 
danDMV
19 days ago
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Gotcha - thanks for the heads up!

On ikon pass this year - so looking to check out Snowshoe or Blue soon pre-xmas. Snowshoe doesn't have blackout dates for holidays, but I can imagine regardless the crowds get significant even on the less central runs...

 

Stephen wrote:

I think someone else will probably have more info than me, but I'll say that Shay's revenge is usually the last to open. It may be a while. They tend to get Cupp open pretty quickly, though. I'd think if the weather keeps up like this it would be a week or two.

There's usually a grouping of core trails that each resort will build up a huge base on to make it through any thaw. Then when those trails have enough snow, they start bringing up other trails in an order that often is the same each year, but sometimes different, and they aren't brought up with the same base as the core trails.  Once the core trails have enough base, the other trails pop up pretty quickly. They'll have a few trails that are often last, and if there's a big thaw where they have to go back to the core trails, then they kind of start over, and if that pattern keeps happening, some trails never open. The start of this season is pretty amazing though with the next ten days still looking great. Cupp is a high priority trail, whereas Shay's is often the lowest priority.  And then moguls on Shay's (the only reason I go there) are the absolute last thing to happen, weather providing.

danDMV wrote:


Ended up doing Timberline and Wisp - both were quite pleasant with minimal lines for opening weekend!
Timberline had no more than a 2min wait to get on lift. Delightful and mostly open.
Wisp had no line but only 2 lift areas open - quite pleasant to run but you could run all the open routes in an hour with not too much variety. Perhaps worth checking out again once area is fully open as long as lines aren't too long.

Follow-on question:

Anyone know when the Western Territory in Snowshoe typically opens up? 
Stephen
19 days ago
Member since 02/16/2024 🔗
114 posts

Snowshoe lift ticket prices are out of control, so a pass is really the only way to do it these days.

One side of snowshoe has many trails, but very short expert runs.  All the runs on that side are short, but the expert runs are literally just a few turns before they level out into green.  The western territory has the only long runs, but worse snow.  I don't go to Snowshoe unless the Western territory is open.  Lower Shay's revenge is a solid run, steep and long, that offers something most other places around here don't have, but without that I prefer every other place, for the skiing.  Snowshoe village is nice though.

danDMV wrote:

Gotcha - thanks for the heads up!

On ikon pass this year - so looking to check out Snowshoe or Blue soon pre-xmas. Snowshoe doesn't have blackout dates for holidays, but I can imagine regardless the crowds get significant even on the less central runs...

 

Stephen wrote:

I think someone else will probably have more info than me, but I'll say that Shay's revenge is usually the last to open. It may be a while. They tend to get Cupp open pretty quickly, though. I'd think if the weather keeps up like this it would be a week or two.

There's usually a grouping of core trails that each resort will build up a huge base on to make it through any thaw. Then when those trails have enough snow, they start bringing up other trails in an order that often is the same each year, but sometimes different, and they aren't brought up with the same base as the core trails.  Once the core trails have enough base, the other trails pop up pretty quickly. They'll have a few trails that are often last, and if there's a big thaw where they have to go back to the core trails, then they kind of start over, and if that pattern keeps happening, some trails never open. The start of this season is pretty amazing though with the next ten days still looking great. Cupp is a high priority trail, whereas Shay's is often the lowest priority.  And then moguls on Shay's (the only reason I go there) are the absolute last thing to happen, weather providing.

danDMV wrote:


Ended up doing Timberline and Wisp - both were quite pleasant with minimal lines for opening weekend!
Timberline had no more than a 2min wait to get on lift. Delightful and mostly open.
Wisp had no line but only 2 lift areas open - quite pleasant to run but you could run all the open routes in an hour with not too much variety. Perhaps worth checking out again once area is fully open as long as lines aren't too long.

Follow-on question:

Anyone know when the Western Territory in Snowshoe typically opens up? 
Stephen
19 days ago
Member since 02/16/2024 🔗
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Oh, also, the western territory almost never has lines, whereas Ballhooter lift can be a nightmare on the holidays and weekends.

danDMV wrote:

Gotcha - thanks for the heads up!

On ikon pass this year - so looking to check out Snowshoe or Blue soon pre-xmas. Snowshoe doesn't have blackout dates for holidays, but I can imagine regardless the crowds get significant even on the less central runs...

 

Stephen wrote:

I think someone else will probably have more info than me, but I'll say that Shay's revenge is usually the last to open. It may be a while. They tend to get Cupp open pretty quickly, though. I'd think if the weather keeps up like this it would be a week or two.

There's usually a grouping of core trails that each resort will build up a huge base on to make it through any thaw. Then when those trails have enough snow, they start bringing up other trails in an order that often is the same each year, but sometimes different, and they aren't brought up with the same base as the core trails.  Once the core trails have enough base, the other trails pop up pretty quickly. They'll have a few trails that are often last, and if there's a big thaw where they have to go back to the core trails, then they kind of start over, and if that pattern keeps happening, some trails never open. The start of this season is pretty amazing though with the next ten days still looking great. Cupp is a high priority trail, whereas Shay's is often the lowest priority.  And then moguls on Shay's (the only reason I go there) are the absolute last thing to happen, weather providing.

danDMV wrote:


Ended up doing Timberline and Wisp - both were quite pleasant with minimal lines for opening weekend!
Timberline had no more than a 2min wait to get on lift. Delightful and mostly open.
Wisp had no line but only 2 lift areas open - quite pleasant to run but you could run all the open routes in an hour with not too much variety. Perhaps worth checking out again once area is fully open as long as lines aren't too long.

Follow-on question:

Anyone know when the Western Territory in Snowshoe typically opens up? 
natehurst
18 days ago
Member since 02/27/2025 🔗
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I had a blast! Excellent mountain all around -- loved the terrain, the snowmaking, the grooming, the staff ... hell, even the food + beer were good.  Looking forward to going back when they're 100% open. 

wgo wrote:


Let us know how you like Timberline! And be sure to go back to check it out when they are 100% open with the glades and natural snow trails available.

natehurst wrote:

I'm going to Timberline tomorrow for the first time ever. Looking forward to trying it out! 

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
16 days ago
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From the Massanutten website on Dec. 10, 2025.  Getting Upper Mass Transit and Yee Ha open before the Christmas holidays would be quite an accomplishment.

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Argent - DCSki Supporter 
16 days ago (edited 16 days ago)
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About 5 inches last night at Timberline (some blew away). Making snow everywhere except Salamander (groomed), The Drop (closed), and White Lightning (ungroomed). I’d guess Off the Wall will be open by this weekend. 

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