>> However, from time to time, some of these rough characters can get a bit wild on the ungladed slopes.
Steve, what is your problem?
You said on the Snowshoe thread that you were unjustly criticized for simply stating "objective" facts. Where's the objectivity here?
Reconsider your posting style or get lost.
You are splitting hairs. You consistently make some pretty outrageous comments, and feel you have qualified the comments by stating "in my opinion".
Get lost man.
Over the past few years, DCSki's Message Forums have been a model of civil and informed discourse, and I have taken a "hands off" attitude, not even requiring registration to make sure there were no impediments to people sharing their comments. Let's stop being critical to each other, stop bashing resorts repeatedly, and focus on constructive conversations that highlight how to get the most out of skiing or snowboarding in this region. The last role I want to play is a "Forum Cop."
In the recent DCSki survey, I suggested that DCSki needed message board participants to register prior to posting and more strict moderation of the posts are needed. This is the normal procedure for most Internet message boards. Through your hard work and the hard work of others, DCSki has acquired a much wider audience, and unfounded posts can have a much bigger impact. More justification is required of general criticisms, especially for posters who are not posting for the first time. (Newbies are cut some slack everywhere in life.)
I make no bones about my criticisms of Steve V's posting style. Note I said posting style and not Steve V. himself (or herself). I am not simply an anti-Steve V. poster (though he/she may feel that way) and I stand by the diversity of my posts. Anyone can search the archives of DCSki to find out for themselves.
On the bright side, I just bought a new pair of skis this morning at Ski Center, they'll be mounted by Thursday, and I'll be on the slopes next weekend. Look for the skier with the Atomic SX:9's with the big smile on his face. They feel more like rollerblades than skis - feels like I'm cheating.
1. Provide a private messaging functions for members to communicate offline. PMs can clear up a lot of potential disputes and also allow members to go into more detail on a side topic offline.
2. Provide a better registrations system for users, which will make it easier for Scott to patrol the forum. He's way too busy to play forum cop but I agree with JohnL that a better registration system could curb some abuse.
3. Provide a dynamic web link capability.
4. Provide members an easy 1-click method of reporting suspicious posts.
5. Provide members with a way to post post ski pictures.
For better or worse, this forum (and the article comments area) represents the tail that wags the dog for DCSki. It's why most people regularly log in to DCSki--not that the other content isn't good, it's just not up to the minute fresh like the forum.
Also, in the Internet age, people prefer raw, unfiltered information over edited content. The general consensus amongst net users is that user reviews, even though they often contain glaring inaccuracies, are less biased than professional reviews or articles.
More and more, people are making decisions about where to ski, where to stay, what skis to buy, and where to eat based on what people write in forums. Admittedly, I stayed at the Inn at the Long Trail at Killington based on some comments I read on www.epicski.com. Fortunately, the people who posted comments proved to be reputable. If I had just used the Killington web site to find a room, I would have ended up at Killington property like the Grand Summit. That's fine if you have money to burn but if you are cheap and discriminating, the web is great way to scout out wonderful venues off the beaten trail. Heck, if it were not for DCSki, I never would have visited Timberline because Timberline does not market itself at all.
This is why resort managers get so upset when they read unconstructive criticism of their resorts on DCSki. They get pissed because they know it is having an impact on discriminating skiers. So what can we do? Well, people have to raise red flags when they read false, biased, or unconstuctive comments. This could mean posting a corrective to a negative post or with a new software system, simply reporting the suspicious post to Scott and having him delete it.
It's not a bullet proof solution but it's a start.
You have a pretty strong record of sounding off in criticizim of BK. I think you have some valid points, already covered in other discussions, regarding their recent logging activities. However I think its very unfair, and it reveals a bias on your part, to charachterize the patrons at BK as a "'rough' crowd" based solely on greenruns' report.
Last weekend at 7Springs My girlfriend and I were knocked over by a 8 year old snow boarder who was sliding down giant boulder on his backside, clearly out of control. I think neither he, nor greenruns' "hot dogger" represent the average skier at any local resort. I think your statement, even if it is just your opinion, is a mischarachterization.
I am, and I think Scott in his reluctance to "patrol the forums" is, offering you the chance to regain some credibilty by reexamining your statments. I think to be taken seriously you have to admit that not everything is going poorly at blueknob.
I agree that as you said this is a forum for the "discriminating" skier to learn more about skiing options in this area. I think that most people will be able to see, from the record that exists, that Steve V. is highly critical of BK, much more so than anyone else on DCSKI. They will also see that his opion is the exception to the rule here.
For my part DCSki influences my, and apparently your, ski purchasing by showing me what is out there. In that sense, and publicinty is good publicity, even if its slander. Further I think most discriminating people would rather see for themselves rather than base their actions solely on any of our opinions.
Please let us know how your new skis are working for you. And I am looking forward to your report from Blue Knob.
[This message has been edited by tromano (edited 01-04-2004).]