Timberline Upgrades for 2021/22
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mounthoya
21 days ago
Member since 09/20/2021 🔗
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Good news from management today; they’ve been working all summer and doubled the snowmaking capacity from last year and completed the renovations on the lodge.   Bad news is that mountain biking likely won’t resume next Spring but they’re assessing.   Looking forward to another exceptional year as this owner has committed $$ to elevating the experience.  No news on coffee upgrades (sorry, had to broach) but hoping they can partner with local barista to up their offering.  Anyone else out there have thoughts on summer visit and activities for kids?
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
21 days ago
Member since 12/10/2008 🔗
2,544 posts
How was the mountain biking run in the summer?  Lift-served?  How many trails?  Did they have "bike patrol" in the same way that snowy slopes are monitored by ski patrol.
mounthoya
21 days ago
Member since 09/20/2021 🔗
6 posts
No mountain biking this year; from what I understand, it hasn’t been offered for a few years.  Was hoping they’d resume next year.  Not sure of patrol
johnfmh - DCSki Columnist
21 days ago
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mounthoya wrote:

Good news from management today; they’ve been working all summer and doubled the snowmaking capacity from last year

I’d like to see this confirmed in a press release. They have done a lot of work this summer replacing pipes, but I haven’t seen that many new guns on my various hikes around the mountain this summer. More guns yes but not double what we saw last season. In know the system will be much better this next season but double last year’s capacity sounds like a stretch.

 

Rickh
21 days ago (edited 21 days ago)
Member since 12/2/2004 🔗
147 posts

From what I understand they added 30 new guns. The real upgrade was in the capacity to get water up the mountain. All the piping they added is where they see the gains in snow making capacity. The mid-mountain pumps where only run at 50% capacity last winter. With the added water they can run both pumps.

Yesterday they started digging a large trench up the mountain under the 6 pack? No idea, power? 

Also, they added several foundations for poles around the base next to all the snow guns. Questioning if its for lights, because there are power units right next to each as well.

We will see. 

mounthoya
21 days ago
Member since 09/20/2021 🔗
6 posts
Let’s hope the trenches are for power — night skiing would be great.  Managment not the best at touting their success.  Selfishly I don’t mind as I like the smaller crowds. Some here in Arlington still have negative perception of TL given prior owner’s neglect/lack of investment and bankruptcy.  
Rickh
21 days ago
Member since 12/2/2004 🔗
147 posts


 Sshhh don't tell them. But, I do want the new owners to be successful. So I want them to bring there money and support this place. Last year was the best year on this mountain in over 10 years. 

mounthoya wrote:

Let’s hope the trenches are for power — night skiing would be great.  Managment not the best at touting their success.  Selfishly I don’t mind as I like the smaller crowds. Some here in Arlington still have negative perception of TL given prior owner’s neglect/lack of investment and bankruptcy.  
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
20 days ago
Member since 12/10/2008 🔗
2,544 posts

Rickh wrote:


 Sshhh don't tell them. But, I do want the new owners to be successful. So I want them to bring there money and support this place. Last year was the best year on this mountain in over 10 years. 

mounthoya wrote:

Let’s hope the trenches are for power — night skiing would be great.  Managment not the best at touting their success.  Selfishly I don’t mind as I like the smaller crowds. Some here in Arlington still have negative perception of TL given prior owner’s neglect/lack of investment and bankruptcy.  

Last season I talked to a man from Ohio who got a discounted lift ticket to use during late season because he was a season pass holder at Perfect North.  So there was clearly marketing happening in Ohio to get people to make the drive east.

I get the sense that the Perfect family fit in the "under promise and over deliver" category of business owners.  So glad they bought Timberline.

The history of Perfect North has included plenty of upgrades over decades.  It's no longer linked on the homepage, but the webpage celebrating 40 years that has a timeline is still available.  Just noticed that snowboarding was not allowed for ten years in the 1990s and was added back for 2001-02.  They moved the terrain park before that season.  They doubled snowmaking capacity at Perfect North for the first time back in 1988-89 when day tickets were $15 and a season pass was $275.

Perfect North Timeline at 40th anniversary 2019-20

"Season 1, 1980-81

Construction began August of ‘80, and opened for the season on January 12, 1981. The lodge was built using old brick from Norwood Sash and Door in Cincinnati. Interior beams and siding were salvaged from local Indiana barns. PNS opened with 2 Stadeli cable tows and three rope tows on 150’ vertical drop. Snowmaking was done with 8 portable snowguns. 400 pairs of used rentals with Spademan bindings were in the basement rental shop. The tows and ski rentals were purchased from a defunct ski area in Tennessee. Weekday ticket: $7.00; rental: $7.00. Weekend ticket was $10.00 and rental $9.00. Hours: Monday through Thursday 10am – 10:30pm, Friday & Saturday 9am – 12:30, and Sunday hours were 9:00am – 10:00pm. Total attendance for the season was 6200 visits. Closed for the season on March 8.""

johnfmh - DCSki Columnist
20 days ago
Member since 07/18/2001 🔗
1,938 posts

Last season was great despite average snowfall (120.8 inches) and above average thaw cycles:

data.canaanmtnsnow.com

TM did a great job recovering from thaws with the capacity they had last season. I can only dream of how better things will be next season and how much more terrain will be open by 25 December weather permitting. 

Hopefully, lifts will be loaded to capacity. That should ease lines at the 6-pack, which got quite long on Saturdays and long weekends. 20 minutes plus at times. I’d also like to see day tickets on weekends go up in price in attempt to lower crowds on those days. We will see. The owners are great as are the staff. 

Rickh
19 days ago
Member since 12/2/2004 🔗
147 posts


 So, looks like they finished up under the 6 pack by "grooming" the soil, yes they used a groomer to do it :-). My guess is as they added base last year the skiers taking off from the base were close to the snow. So, they lowered the land somewhat so they could keep base there.

Rickh wrote:

From what I understand they added 30 new guns. The real upgrade was in the capacity to get water up the mountain. All the piping they added is where they see the gains in snow making capacity. The mid-mountain pumps where only run at 50% capacity last winter. With the added water they can run both pumps.

Yesterday they started digging a large trench up the mountain under the 6 pack? No idea, power? 

Also, they added several foundations for poles around the base next to all the snow guns. Questioning if its for lights, because there are power units right next to each as well.

We will see. 

kwillg6
5 hours ago
Member since 01/18/2005 🔗
2,036 posts
I've been quietly watching the work on TM all summer. Noticed change for snowmaking on Salamander below S turn for fixed guns.   Trenching recently for electric to run to mid.  Imagine this will allow for them to light the lower half of the mountain accessible from the quad lift which makes sense. They installed over 9000' of new snowmaking pipe, replacing the swiss cheese in Winterset and pushing additional pipe up the mountain but not sure just where.  They did a lot of work addressing drainage issues which have existed for years. I believe the experience of being on this mountain will be exceptional no matter what day of the week you visit.  They will have area for overflow parking, and the lodge is really nice. 
kwillg6
5 hours ago
Member since 01/18/2005 🔗
2,036 posts

If you were to go to TM this Saturday or Sunday for an event they have planned in conjunction with local artists and other vendors, you will be able to purchase a one day lift ticket and rental package for $62.  Go to timberlinemountain.com to view details. Will go to see what they have to offer.   

nickhaas212
2 hours ago
Member since 11/13/2019 🔗
31 posts

Questions: 1.) Does anyone know if there is any possibility of having night skiing on trails this winter? 2.) I have heard they plan on doing night skiing on 13 trails eventually. I tried messaging TM myself, but they did not want to release this information yet it seems like.

Snowmaking Updates (Confirmed): 1.) They have 10 new fans on White Out and Easy Does and have installed more guns and fans on Twister. 2.) They have added more snowmaking in other areas of the mountain and regraded the base of the drive terminal for the 6-Pack. 3.) The lodge is 100% complete it sounds like as well. Source: TM Fan Club on Facebook. A couple of people who live either on the mountain or live nearby provide great construction updates.

Rumors: 1.)These are just rumors that I have heard, but they look like they may add another lift in place of the Silver Queen as well as carve out a few more trails over in the Advanced/Expert Area of the mountain as well as additional areas below to improve traffic and guest experience. They may add a dedicated tow rope in the terrain park as there is some old equipment and drives leftover by previous owners in the Thunderstruck Area. This is a long shot, but in regards to mountain biking, I have heard mentions of adding another lift solely dedicated to mountain biking for all year around operations on the South/West Side of Mountain that the sun seems to hit a lot. This would almost be similar to what Granite Peaks in Wisconsin is trying to do as well. Please take all of these rumors with a grain of salt!!!

Rickh
26 minutes ago
Member since 12/2/2004 🔗
147 posts

Great news on the increased snow making. Any sign of additional guns on Almost Heaven? I'd heard they were adding there earlier this summer.

As for the new lift, I'd say that decision won't be made until after this season. I was speaking with a Doppelmayr guy during last ski season. They believe they have enough lift capacity. We will/ they will see this season.

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