Skiing the Laurels - 2020/2021
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snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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I have been watching Seven Springs, Hidden Valley and Laurel Mountain getting ready for the 2020/2021 ski season. However, no COVID type policy has been issued by Seven Springs. Typical Eric Mauch management style...wait until the last minute. I have not tracked the Laurels other 2 resorts, Wisp and Blue Knob to see what's up. I am sure they are all  itching to get some revenue. I also have not heard anything about new improvements. Given how miserable 2020 has been with the pandemic riots, the election, Trump, fires, hurricanes, etc, I SO look forward to skiing. A bad ski weather season would be the nail in the coffin. For all you Laurels skiers, what are your thoughts about the upcoming ski season?

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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This year I downgraded to a Laurel only season pass because I had been getting the PASA Dedicated Skier Pass and planned to use that to ski 7S and other PA resorts. Well the PASA pass was discontinued for good. Anyways, those were my plans before the pandemic. Now I'll wait and see how covid runs its course before I make any plans. I've already accepted that we might not ski at all this winter due to our vulnerability to covid because of underlying medical conditions.

Needles to say, I am not organizing any volunteer trail and glade cleaning days at Laurel this Fall. Also not putting together a Gathering GTG either. I'm not going to be a volunteer for the herd immunity army and I will not ask anybody else to do so either.

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I've been up to 7Springs a number of times this summer/fall, since we have a condo there. I find 7Springs management to be mediocre. If the North family had Nutting's money and owned 7S, it would be top shelf. That said, it looked like the resort did solid business this summer.

Complaints aside, 7S is a "steady eddie". It will never be spectacular with the current management, but it will never go broke either. They will make modest investments here and there, like repaving all of the roads in the resort, creating paved footpaths up by the condos, renovation of various spaces, upgrading snowmaking nozzels, etc.

This summer, all around the base and top of the Avalanche lift was dug up. I got excited, thinking "they're finally going to replace this dog". In the end, it looks like it was just repair work. I saw crew replacing some snowmaking sticks on the mountain. Management just seems content with the status quo. I wish they'd upgrade a lift or cut a new run once every 10 years.

We have season passes and are thrilled that 7S doesn't join the passes IKON, etc. Crowds have been much better than other places I've skied in the mid-Atlantic on weekends. That's it for the 7S update.

Leo
3 months ago
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Nutting is dumping all of the money back into the Pirates and we will just have to be satisfied with having a top shelf baseball team even if it means medicore management of the ski areas.

In all seriousness though, I spent more time than usual around 7S and HV this summer.  They were very busy with people because of the popularity of outdoor activities and the crush of out of towners, but a lot of the revenue sources were not there or reduced.  So I am quite sure they didn't have the best summer and they really can't be faulted for taking a wait and see approach heading into this ski season.

I had to talk to someone at the pass office this week and they acted like it's business as usual with regard to skiing, but who knows. 

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Laurel Highlands
3 months ago
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Got an email from Hidden Valley last week stating the following;  "We hope to have details about winter operations completed in the next few weeks. Rest assured, we will be skiing and snowboarding this year and will be doing it in a safe, yet fun manner."  Expect that they are waiting to see covid status by opening time and are working through possible options based on that. Can't blame them with so many variables at play

Having 2 AirBnB properties in the area, what I can say is this has been the busiest fall ever, booked solid every day.    Since school and work is still virtual for lots of people, that has opened up midweek travel and everone is looking to get away in a distanced way.  Would expect some of that to continue into the ski season, and this could be a great season for the resorts with  higher midweek visitors IF they can adapt to the situation.   For example, would expect that people may not want to congregate in the lodges, but outdoor food and bar could do great. Similarly distanced vacation homes may be preferred over hotels like 7S and local B&B's. Could also benefit from fewer people looking to get on airplanes to head west, and instead opting for drivable options such as the Laurels.

RodneyBD - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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Owners of Blue Knob are still sputtering along... did they make any off season improvements?  Like, any?  Their facebook page does a fantastic job of pushing the Clubhouse Surf and Turf specials...

camp
3 months ago
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RodneyBD wrote:

Their facebook page does a fantastic job of pushing the Clubhouse Surf and Turf specials...

No kidding. Could they put that kind of marketing energy into their daily snow reports, or snowmaking??

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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I believe the group that purchased Blue Knob several years ago have some of the same members that tried to buy Hidden Valley from the Bunchers. They could not come up with the money to close the deal and thus the reason why HV is now owned by 7S. You would need deep pockets to provide the investment needed at BK. I don't think they have that kind of capital. 

RodneyBD - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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Right, they don't and they won't.  Unless they bring in a partner (doubtful but could happen) or they pursue some more debt (not gonna happen).  Also uhelpful that the group is all Pittsburgh based.  No owner onsite on a daily basis.  So like many partnerships that start off with such great promise, they will all start looking at each other sideways over next few years wondering - after they bought a resort with a lot of deferred maintenance, and in three years managed to add one pump and fix two broken snow making pipes - why haven't thousands of more lift tickets been sold?

Meanwhile 7S is a mob scene every Sat and Sun December through March.  Sigh.

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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Note that HV and LM recently re-advertised their early season , season pass deal. I am wondering if they have a reduced number of season pass renewals because of COVID. Perhaps many people were wondering if they would even be open? And thus delayed their decision on getting a season pass.

LHC- how about getting a mid-week pass for LM? Low crowds=low risk?

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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Season pass prices for 7S and the Highlands Pass (good at all 3) were also reduced to pre-season levels. For example, the Highlands Pass has been reduced to $630. I believe that is $100 less than a few weeks ago. The 7S only pass is $613. Click here for details. The Hidden Valley only Season Pass is $483 as is the Laurel Mountain only Season Pass. There are discounted prices for seniors, juniors, and children, midweek, etc. Also a discount for paying with cash or check. 

Snowsmith, I already have a full Laurel only season pass. I purchased it just a week before the lockdown. We will wait and see how Laurel's season unfolds and if there is an uptick in visitors hoping to avoid crowds. If we do go our car will be our base lodge. 

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)
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Perhaps most don't know your 7S, HV or LM season pass and the combined Highland Pass include a resort swap and ski lift ticket discounts at the 'Mountains of Distinction':

- if you have a HV, LM or 7S pass, you get a free day(Sunday -Friday) at all three resorts and also a free day at Wisp Resort and Wintergreen. After using your free day you get 50% off for each visit there after. Of  course if you have a Highland pass you can ski at all three  -HV, LM & 7S anytime.

- the 'Mountains of Distinction' include: Massachusetts: Jiminy Peak, Wachusetts;  NH: Cranmore;  NY: Bristol Mtn, Holiday Valley, Ski Windam;  Vt: Bromley. For all of these resorts, you get $15 off lift tickets on Sat., Sun., and Holidays. Mid-week you get 50% off lift tickets.

- Ski Cooper, CO: you can get 3 free lift tickets for this ski resort, any day, no black out dates.

Ski Cooper is not far from Breckinridge and historic Leadville. If we're able to make it to CO this year, it may be worth spending a day or 2 skiing at Cooper.

Bristol Mtn NY has a 1,200 foot vertical and is about 2 hours from Holiday Valley. It's also in Finger Lakes wine country.

Has anyone from DCski ever skied Bristol Mtn?

 

 

 

RodneyBD - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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I went to college in Rochester and spent quite a few Wednesdays at Bristol (college discount day, whoo hoo!).  It is eerily similar to Whitetail but just a hair bigger.  6 or 7 trails down the fall line, meandering green trails off to skiers right, and they have a few black trails about the same as pitch as Exhibition and Bold Decision (and they used to let one trail bump up, just like Whitetail lays off Bold Decision).  So nothing terribly unique but a great mountain for getting some runs in.  Almost forgot - right in lake effect snow country, so they can have great conditions when just a few hours south there is no snow in sight.   

fosphenytoin - DCSki Supporter
2 months ago
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I've heard of Bristol mtn.  

My first job out of college was in Rochester, NY, lived there for 5 years until 2005.  Regrettably, I never visited Bristol, had not started skiing then (picked up skiing in 2010).  I remembered the lake effect snow very well, it was the reason I decided to leave, winter was like 5-6 months ordeal, it was too long.  

I still have friends in Rochester and I do like to go back in winter some day , visiting friends and checking out Bristol.  

Vermont
2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)
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I taught/coached at Bristol back before jumping was allowed and one guy was skiing in a “here I am “ yellow rain coat 🧥 hitting some jumps, I saw him couple runs later he didn’t have the yellow jacket on he said he skied directly to his car to ditch the yellow jacket after he was spotted and chased bye patrol, 

 Steve Howie was an awesome director and Mike ran the race program 

it did get nice lake effect snow, the people working there were super cool and nice,  they kept a trail bumps like bold decision at White Tail, but it had a more feel of being in the mountains and having a green from the top is something White tail sorely lacks especially from an instructors point of view 

Kyle Hopkins was their strongest skier, instructor , coach, I was new to the area and he showed me the ropes, great guy all around passed away years ago unfortunately, his brother Keith is a fixture teaching at Killington I highly recommend lining him up for a lesson/ tour, he isn’t the monster on skis that Kyle was but is very knowledgeable of the area and teaching

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
2 months ago
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7S and HV real estate has been selling like hot cakes. In the HV community the resale inventory was over 100 properties for many years. The resale inventory at HV is now 16. I think because of COVID, city dwellers were looking for a safe place to get away. A place where they could enjoy outdoor recreation. Thus they bought a vacation home in the mountains where they can safely recreate. I assume this may also be happening in the Wisp and Canaan areas?
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
one month ago (edited one month ago)
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I was looking forward to skiing this year more so than other years. However, looking at the lift lines at 7S and HV, and Snowshoe, is it really worth the effort? Someone said the lift line at a particular lift at Snowshoe was 35 minutes.... THIRTY FIVE FREAKIN’ MINUTES. Why bother?  I hope weekdays are better. 

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camp
one month ago
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snowsmith wrote:

I was looking forward to skiing this year more so than other years. However, looking at the lift lines at 7S and HV, and Snowshoe, is it really worth the effort

I've been out 4 days, two of which were nordic on state forest ski trails. Blue Mountain was uncrowded and spaced. Camelback on their opening day was more madhouse and long lines for the one lift that went to the top. Longest lines I've waited in in many years. Blue apparently got overrun after the storm and quickly said the full weekend was sold out. 

I'll be in HV next weekend, and hoping another storm allows xc skiing in North Woods. I've never seen horrible lines at HV, but who knows now.

 

Reisen
one month ago
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Lift lines can be a problem with skiing any year, especially in the MA. I’ve waited through insane lift lines in Whistler, Utah, Colorado, Vermont, and Europe. 

Skiing at Snowshoe last weekend, they were about typical for a Saturday in season. I suspect that COVID is creating two offsetting factors. Some people are staying home, but for the people that are going, reduced capacity due to social distancing makes the lines as long as if more people were there. 

I’d be curious how the lines on Western Territory were yesterday. 
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
one month ago
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What’s going on with Laurel Mountain? They made a lot of snow, they received 12+ inches of natural, they partially groomed it out and then nothing happened. Did the groomer break down?  There doesn’t seem like there is a shortage of skiers. In fact, I have never seen crowds of skiers like this, this early in the season. Get er’ open! 
Leo
one month ago
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 Hidden Valley was reasonable Fri (opening day) but Saturday and Sunday were very busy by late morning and through evening.  Just being there and observing I suspected as much, but in talking with a nice and knowledgeable employee, they are definitely having trouble hiring enough employees.

So my hunch would be that the pecking order for hired employees is 7S > HV > LM.

By Sunday Hidden Valley did a better job of managing the crowd (they opened the second triple and had employees directing lift lines) but it was still long waits.  In addition, very little terrain was opened -- basically Riviera, Continental, Imperial and Angel's Elbow.  There was plenty of snow so I am guessing that they can't get people to run the groomers either, let alone the lifts.

Normally the just before holiday period is quiet because people have other stuff to do, so I am thinking it might get worse before it gets better as far as crowds and lift lines are concerned.

snowsmith wrote:

What’s going on with Laurel Mountain? They made a lot of snow, they received 12+ inches of natural, they partially groomed it out and then nothing happened. Did the groomer break down?  There doesn’t seem like there is a shortage of skiers. In fact, I have never seen crowds of skiers like this, this early in the season. Get er’ open! 
msprings
29 days ago
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How was Blue Knob? Debating a trip over there, but unsure how much was open, how crowded it was, and how Covid is being handled there.
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
29 days ago
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I always thought it was rather stupid that they waited until late November to hold their job fairs. I'll bet there is some legal or bean counting reason that Eric Mauch holds these job fairs so late. And I'll also bet that that is why Laurel Mtn is not open.
camp
29 days ago
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msprings wrote:

How was Blue Knob? 

A true old school Blue Knob silent management mess. They have their beginner trails at the top open. 

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I spent all of Monday and Tuesday morning at 7Springs with two of my boys. It was a very nice experience,

but they need to open more terrain. Crowds were reasonable and well-managed.

Avalanche was the only black diamond open, but it skied very well, as did little stashes in the trees to the

sides of it. Off the left and right sides of Wagner, my son and I skied powder all morning and now we're

sitting here with tired legs and full stomachs. Good experience, I am much more confident about this

ski season! Happy Holidays All!

wfyurasko - DCSki Supporter
28 days ago
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camp wrote:

msprings wrote:

How was Blue Knob? 

A true old school Blue Knob silent management mess. They have their beginner trails at the top open. 

 Sigh. If Timberline can get a miracle, maybe Blue Knob can too. Is it just too isolated to get gobbled up?

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
28 days ago
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Hooorrraaaayyy! Laurel Mtn will open on Saturday! 
camp
28 days ago
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snowsmith wrote:

Hooorrraaaayyy! Laurel Mtn will open on Saturday! 

 ....after I bought my family tickets to HV for sat-sun. One of the many new risks of reservation systems

needawax
27 days ago
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I don't really do the forums a whole lot, but I thought I'd give you my impressions of HV over the past weekend.  I skied HV Sat 12/19 and Sun 12/20. I was able to renew all the passes right at the booth outside in about 5 minutes.  Conditions Sat were really good and plenty of powder on the sides of riviera and other stashes if you know the place.  Frontside and north summit both open, but they're still working on opening new terrain.  They're handling the covid situation rather nicely, and they have people at the lift lines reminding people that masks are required.  Lift lines were long, but this was opening weekend, and it looks like they're sorting it.   Plan on hitting it again Christmas Eve and hopefully they'll have things like cobra and maybe thunderbird open by then....
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27 days ago
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Thanks for the report, needawax, and congratulations on your first post.  :)  
Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
27 days ago (edited 27 days ago)
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Needawax, Stick around. We could use a few more steady reports from the Laurels. Have you been to Seven Springs and have you ever been to Laurel Mountain? I would love to hear your experience with their covid protocol but also your overall impressions of the terrain and the lodge. Let us know how skiing on Christmas Eve goes.

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
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making up for lost time wrote:

I spent all of Monday and Tuesday morning at 7Springs with two of my boys. It was a very nice experience,

but they need to open more terrain. Crowds were reasonable and well-managed.

Avalanche was the only black diamond open, but it skied very well, as did little stashes in the trees to the

sides of it. Off the left and right sides of Wagner, my son and I skied powder all morning and now we're

sitting here with tired legs and full stomachs. Good experience, I am much more confident about this

ski season! Happy Holidays All!

It's nice to hear that crowds are well managed and you feel good about the season. This weekend will really be a challenge in that regard. They should be able to get more terrain open. It looks like the left alley of the North Face was opened today. That is the best way to spread out the crowds. It all will depend on today's rain.

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
26 days ago
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Speaking of today's rain, it was a miserable drive from Balto to HV. I hydroplaned several times it was raining so hard. I was surprised to see how much snow remains on the mountain. I wish I could have been here yesterday. This type of storm is the bane of Mid-Atlantic skiing. Storms that move west of the mountains puts us on the warm side of the storm. This mess is supposed to change to snow this evening and the forecasted amount has now been reduced to 2" - 4". This storm is huge and very powerfull. Hopefully we'll get more.
Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
25 days ago
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snowsmith wrote:

Speaking of today's rain, it was a miserable drive from Balto to HV. I hydroplaned several times it was raining so hard. I was surprised to see how much snow remains on the mountain. I wish I could have been here yesterday. This type of storm is the bane of Mid-Atlantic skiing. Storms that move west of the mountains puts us on the warm side of the storm. This mess is supposed to change to snow this evening and the forecasted amount has now been reduced to 2" - 4". This storm is huge and very powerfull. Hopefully we'll get more.

How has the skiing been over the Holiday weekend? Did the snow on the backside of the storm drop more than 4"? HV and Laurel reports 6" 7S reports 4.

camp
24 days ago
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Laurel Hill Crazie wrote:

How has the skiing been over the Holiday weekend? Did the snow on the backside of the storm drop more than 4"? HV and Laurel reports 6" 7S reports 4.

 Excellent snow today at HV. Uncrowded  too

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
24 days ago
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Christmas day was an uncrowded powder day. Today, the day after Christmas, I am sure it was very good this morning, since it snowed all night, however, at 7 degrees and windy, I decided to wait until after lunch. Not many trails open and snow guns blowing on closed trails. I assume the trail count will go up tomorrow. Crowds were light. I am hoping to go to 7S and LM next week. There is alot of snow on unopen trails. Why not open them up. Another storm head our way for New Years. Hopefully the rain will be minimal. 
Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
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camp wrote:

Laurel Hill Crazie wrote:

How has the skiing been over the Holiday weekend? Did the snow on the backside of the storm drop more than 4"? HV and Laurel reports 6" 7S reports 4.

 Excellent snow today at HV. Uncrowded  too 

snowsmith wrote:

Christmas day was an uncrowded powder day. Today, the day after Christmas, I am sure it was very good this morning, since it snowed all night, however, at 7 degrees and windy, I decided to wait until after lunch. Not many trails open and snow guns blowing on closed trails. I assume the trail count will go up tomorrow. Crowds were light. I am hoping to go to 7S and LM next week. There is alot of snow on unopen trails. Why not open them up. Another storm head our way for New Years. Hopefully the rain will be minimal. 

Did Hidden Valley sell out of day tickets today? 7S says the sold out. LM has Broadway only top to bottom, EZ stuff up top and Deer Path across the. bottom.

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
23 days ago
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Hidden Valley, Seven Springs and Laurel Mountain were all sold out. There is an amazing interest in skiing local this year. Not many people want to get in the hermetically sealed metal tube to travel west. The weather today was perfect, the snow was near perfect and the lift lines were long. Some inconsiderate people in the lift lines were not wearing masks, despite repeated announcements from the proactive liftees. I skied for 1.5 hours and then called it a day.
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
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Hidden Valley, Seven Springs and Laurel Mountain were all sold out. There is an amazing interest in skiing local this year. Not many people want to get in the hermetically sealed metal tube to travel west. The weather today was perfect, the snow was near perfect and the lift lines were long. Some inconsiderate people in the lift lines were not wearing masks, despite repeated announcements from the proactive liftees. I skied for 1.5 hours and then called it a day.
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23 days ago
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Snowsmith, thanks for the quick updates.  These mini trip reports on DCSki about recent ski days are more important than ever this year to help gauge the situation at local areas.
camp
23 days ago
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snowsmith wrote:

Hidden Valley, Seven Springs and Laurel Mountain were     I skied for 1.5 hours and then called it a day.

 Good running into you today. We skied off and  on until about two or 230. The lines kept fluctuating but definitely longer than usual, but a lot more spacing within the lines. Late in the day there were ski patrollers out there handing out masks and reminding people in the line. Then a second patroller came to help. The snow stayed really good all day

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
20 days ago
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Skied Laurel Mountain today. There was a message sign as you drove in saying that the lift tickets were sold out. I was expecting a large crowd. Actually, the number of skiers I observed was the most I have ever seen at Laurel. Yet there was never more than 3 or 4 persons in the lift line in front of me. There was limited terrain open - Upper and Lower Broadway and Upper and Lower Wildcat, Deer Path and Last Chance Trail, which I used to cut over to Lower Broadway when I did not feel like going down icy Lower Wildcat. I was amazed at the number of beginners. It would have helped to distribute some of these folks on the green Innsbrook trail. However, it looked like the weren't able to make enough snow on Innsbrook to open it although it looked like they made good progress. There was plenty of snow on Wildcat and it skied well except some icy patches. Most folks were wearing masks with exception of your typical stupid Macho males (why does our gender do stupid stuff like this?). The weather was great and the scenery beautiful as usual. Hopefully we'll get enough snow to open natural snow trails like Dream Highway and Laurel Run....so much fun. 

Look forward to seeing DCSKIers at Laurel this winter!

Vermont
20 days ago
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snowsmith wrote:

Skied Laurel Mountain today. There was a message sign as you drove in saying that the lift tickets were sold out. I was expecting a large crowd. Actually, the number of skiers I observed was the most I have ever seen at Laurel. Yet there was never more than 3 or 4 persons in the lift line in front of me. There was limited terrain open - Upper and Lower Broadway and Upper and Lower Wildcat, Deer Path and Last Chance Trail, which I used to cut over to Lower Broadway when I did not feel like going down icy Lower Wildcat. I was amazed at the number of beginners. It would have helped to distribute some of these folks on the green Innsbrook trail. However, it looked like the weren't able to make enough snow on Innsbrook to open it although it looked like they made good progress. There was plenty of snow on Wildcat and it skied well except some icy patches. Most folks were wearing masks with exception of your typical stupid Macho males (why does our gender do stupid stuff like this?). The weather was great and the scenery beautiful as usual. Hopefully we'll get enough snow to open natural snow trails like Dream Highway and Laurel Run....so much fun. 

Look forward to seeing DCSKIers at Laurel this winter!

 Stupidity isn’t a gender thing at all look at the other gender flying to ski in a pandemic?? Really they give skiers bad reputation, just drive , do not take public transportation period and perhaps we won’t lose our season 

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I just got back from Laurel, arrived there about 9:30. It was empty. It was our first day out this season. This was also the first day that allowed 50% occupancy. We booted up inside. We skied to around 2. Mask compliance was good inside and on lifts but there were a few with masks down. Resort personnel asked them to mask up and all did. People were spread apart on mostly empty trails. EZ to physical distance. Broadway top to bottom mile-long groomer cruiser and Upper and Lower Wildcat both in excellent form. The groomed snow was grippy and fast. Wife was killing it on Lower just ahead of me. I was looking for soft stuff on the steep and I saw her down and sliding headfirst off the trail. Yikes! She came to a rest in Barb's boulders, a little sore scapula but mostly adrenal amped. Too bad too. She had just nailed it on the run before. We were going to hit it hard for the rest of the day but the cat hit first. After a break, wife just cruised Broadway. I got back to the cat for a few more runs and I dropped my glove. It is still there, black gauntlet, palm up as if to wave goodbye, just before the tall grass. A good beginning for the first day but Lower let us know even when you think you're doing ok... Broadway proved the playful ending. We'll be back soon.

There's a thin hard base on the natural terrain. I would have hit Laurel Run if I had a partner. Son, I miss you. If we get another nice dump like 10+, all the natural should be skiable. I hope the base stays. Sunshine this weekend. Sunshine daydream.

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LHC, glad you made it to the slopes and wifey did not get too banged up!  Good snowmaking weather this week!
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LHC thank you for the always informative report.  What do you think odds are they get Lincoln Highway open by next holiday weekend?  Also, do they ever blow on Laurel run?  Thanks
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12 days ago (edited 12 days ago)
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From FB today (just now):

Laurel has one lift only, if I remember correctly. 

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RodneyBD wrote:

LHC thank you for the always informative report.  What do you think odds are they get Lincoln Highway open by next holiday weekend?  Also, do they ever blow on Laurel run?  Thanks

Lincoln Highway just like Laurel Run relies on mother nature to open.

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
12 days ago
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fosphenytoin wrote:

From FB today (just now):

Laurel has one lift only, if I remember correctly. 

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Yes, one chair and a beginners handle tow.

fosphenytoin - DCSki Supporter
11 days ago
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Laurel will remain close this weekend.

From FB page:

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Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
9 days ago (edited 9 days ago)
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It looks like the lift at Laurel will be down for a while. They hope to have it running by Friday. From their Facebook page:

Hello Laurel Mountain Family!
Our TEAM is working hard to get our lift back up and running this week and we will update you as we have information.
We have good news and bad news for you, Laurel Mountain family.
The good news is that our replacement chairlift part came in on time and was successfully installed. The bad news is that as we were working to get everything back up and running, we ran into an issue with the hydraulic pump. ☹ Unfortunately, this leaves us with no choice but to remain close until we get this fixed. Parts are on order and Laurel Mountain will reopen as soon as possible. Our current target is Friday, January 15, 2021 but please check our website and other communication tools for updates.
In the meantime, if you have purchased tickets to visit us, please hold onto your voucher to exchange on a future date.
Laurel Mountain season passholders: Your pass is valid at both Seven Springs and Hidden Valley. We hope that you’ll pay us a visit while we resolve things at Laurel Mountain. We sure would love to welcome you at our other Mountains!
Thank you for your patience and understanding. We miss you and can't wait to welcome you back!
Cheers! - Sarah and Chris
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
9 days ago
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If Eric Mauch would not have let that old quad lift sit there and rot for 7 years, they could have invested a little money and had a back up lift. Not good that this Skytrac lift seems to be failing after only 4 years.
Blue Don 1982 - DCSki Supporter
9 days ago
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Total bummer about the lift.  I had some time off this week and thought about a day trip to LM. 

It's been cold every night in WPA.  Hopefully, they continue to make snow and build those bases.  We all know it will be 60* one day in Feb.
Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
7 days ago
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This from Laurel's website:
UPDATE!!! Laurel Mountain Re-Opens Friday!

We have good news for you today, Laurel Mountain family.


The replacement chairlift parts came in and are being installed. While we remain closed today we will reopen on Friday, January 15 at 9 a.m. and ski until 4 p.m. We will continue to operate from 9 a.m. – 4 p.m. through the holiday weekend.


In the meantime, if you have purchased tickets to visit us today, please hold onto your voucher to exchange on a future date. Laurel Mountain season passholders: Your pass is valid at both Seven Springs and Hidden Valley today. We hope that you’ll pay them a visit while we resolve things over here. They sure would love to see you!


Thank you for your patience and understanding.

RodneyBD - DCSki Supporter
6 days ago
Member since 12/21/2004 🔗
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If this Fri/Sat storm manages to lay down 6” at Laurel, will they be able to open any natural snow trails? Thanks for any educated guesses. 
imp
6 days ago
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226 posts
there still is some snow in the woods making a partial base but lower dream is bare. 6 in won't do it
RodneyBD - DCSki Supporter
5 days ago
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Does the run underneath the lift have an unofficial name?  That and Laurel Run was open two years ago the weekend of the Laurel gathering, was lots of fun.  The totals from this system coming through keep ticking up, maybe we get lucky with an overperform event. 
Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
5 days ago
Member since 08/16/2004 🔗
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The run under the lift from the top down to The Slot is known as Snow Bowl by the geezers. The lines that run between Snow Bowl and Laurel Run are the Kitty Cats. The lift line from The Slot to Lower Wildcat has never been named. Perhaps imp can say if that lower lift line has ever been named. The original double chair had a mid-mointain load station at The Slot. That lower lift line was blocked by the mid-mountain lift corral.

Lower Liftline below The Slot

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JimK - DCSki Columnist
4 days ago (edited 4 days ago)
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I think they should call it "No Friends on a Powder Day" or "No Friends" for short :-)

Except that we know there were friends on that day ;-o

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
4 days ago
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^^^We brushed back that line since you snapped that picture. We haven't had enough snow on it to ski since then. That was a really fun weekend.
imp
4 days ago
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226 posts
who you calling a geezer.  never named as the lift corral at the old midstation blocked it, you had to climb over the railing to get the pole you may have dropped. snowing hard up there, but I doubt we get enought to open, too many rocks showing
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
3 days ago
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Great day of skiing today at Laurel. Conditions were excellent and were enhanced by heavy snow squalls. Some so heavy that it was almost white out conditions. The quad lift is obviously still having problems. It worked fine but they were running the lift using emergency generator power and they connected the hydraulic lines from the groomer to the lift? Very unusual but it worked. They replaced a circuit board and a hydraulic pump. Neither remedy fixed the problem. I’ll give them a lot of credit for the unique solution they came up with.
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
2 days ago
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I arrived at the HV North Summit parking lot at 9:15 am Sunday morning. The lot was already full. The lift lines were the longest I have ever seen at HV. After 2 runs, I packed it in and drove to Laurel Mountain. The lift lines at LM we’re long by LM standards, but I never waited more than a few minutes to get on a chair. Of course it is MLK weekend and it has snowed almost continuously since Friday night providing excellent conditions for the masses that are showing up to ski and escape the pandemic. It’s now late Sunday night and it is still snowing. I am hoping to get some runs in on Monday morning on some fresh snow.
Leo
2 days ago
Member since 11/15/2005 🔗
269 posts


 Sunday was insane, and goes to show a handful of things. 

1. They need to expand the terrain there with the slopes that are already (and have been) cut.  Put in a lift.

2. They are selling too many tickets, they sold too many season passes, or both.  And honestly, while this past Sunday was really bad, the prior Sunday was hardly better and when one of the two triples broke down the line for the remaining triple may have been longer than anything yesterday.  So it's not like being oversold was exclusive to this past weekend.

I don't want to complain, I'm happy we're even getting to ski.  But I have a feeling Nutting is making more money than ever and essentially we're getting an inferior product.  Long lines, less terrain open, amenities spotty at best.  If you can't hire people (the excuse I keep hearing) then pay a higher wage.  At this point it certainly looks like the revenue is there to support it.  

snowsmith wrote:

I arrived at the HV North Summit parking lot at 9:15 am Sunday morning. The lot was already full. The lift lines were the longest I have ever seen at HV. After 2 runs, I packed it in and drove to Laurel Mountain. The lift lines at LM we’re long by LM standards, but I never waited more than a few minutes to get on a chair. Of course it is MLK weekend and it has snowed almost continuously since Friday night providing excellent conditions for the masses that are showing up to ski and escape the pandemic. It’s now late Sunday night and it is still snowing. I am hoping to get some runs in on Monday morning on some fresh snow.
Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter
yesterday
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Leo wrote:


 Sunday was insane, and goes to show a handful of things. 

1. They need to expand the terrain there with the slopes that are already (and have been) cut.  Put in a lift.

2. They are selling too many tickets, they sold too many season passes, or both.  And honestly, while this past Sunday was really bad, the prior Sunday was hardly better and when one of the two triples broke down the line for the remaining triple may have been longer than anything yesterday.  So it's not like being oversold was exclusive to this past weekend.

I don't want to complain, I'm happy we're even getting to ski.  But I have a feeling Nutting is making more money than ever and essentially we're getting an inferior product.  Long lines, less terrain open, amenities spotty at best.  If you can't hire people (the excuse I keep hearing) then pay a higher wage.  At this point it certainly looks like the revenue is there to support it.  

 If what Bob said in another thread is true for Vail is probably true for 7S et. al. https://www.dcski.com/forum/101495#101495. As for not having enough employees Chris Plummer, GM, said that they have enough employees in reply to such speculation in the Support Laurel Mountain Facebook Group. I'd share that link but it is a private group. Support Laurel Mountain Facebook Group I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what you said, just voicing my opinion.

I'm not sure what terrain expansion is possible at HV but I would agree that it would be great if Laurel was able to make snow on more of their terrain but that would require a load of money that, I'm afraid to say, Laurel's skier visit would not justify the investment by private capital.  That is my opinion based on the lack of crowds at Laurel. 

From what I gather from ski industry trade magazines and other business sources I've read is ski industry growth is flat or slightly declining but on good snow years, there is an increase of skier visits over the previous years. Perhaps increased competition from a revitalized Timberline and big boys Epic and Ikon offering cheap season passes not to mention Indy Pass inroads into the market might spur some investment just to hold market share. We can only hope.

Cycleski
yesterday (edited yesterday)
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Hi all, this is my first post and wanted to provide a quick note on Seven Spring.  My family and I came up Sunday night and skied all day today. There was a fresh roughly 4 in of snow fall last night and the snow machines were running a bit this morning.  Overall, the slopes were in really good shape and the lines were 5-10 min max on Gunnar, Polar Express, and North Face.  The smaller lift lines were shorter.  While there were quite a few out today, I did not feel like it was over crowded.  

I did not see anyone without some of mask and I found the overall experience way better than I expected.  Will get another day in tomorrow before heading back to Northern VA.

Happy skiing

John S.

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
yesterday
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 I just want to note a few observations and comment on the recent posts:

- Eric Mauch is the CEO of the ski operations. He has a bean counter mentality thus you will not see any terrain expansions at any of the three resorts nor will you see any major investments in lifts, snow making, etc. I think he is a balance sheet kind of guy.

- Dealing with the Covid economy is new to the ski industry. They did not know what to expect. From what I understand there was a significant increase in season pass sales. Skiing offers a Covid weary public a chance to recreate during the winter months when there are few opportunities for the kiddies to do much of anything. Thus huge crowds are showing up to ski. 

- I skied at LM on both Saturday and Sunday. They had good crowds, far larger than any crowd I've seen in years past. I think LM has been discovered. Despite the problem with the quad lift, they got folks up the mountain. The LM ski patrol is outstanding. Their commitment to customer service needs to be recognized by 7s. My only complaint was waiting in line for 15+ minutes in the Laurel House Cafe to get a bowl of chicken noodle soup. 

--I think the State of PA would have to pony up money to expand snow making for Dream Highway. No way Beancounter Mauch would spend that kind of money. I would say that there are double the number of skiers at LM as compared to year's past. Thus I think LM is financially viable. Most of the skier I saw this weekend had lift tickets and they outnumbered the season pass holders. I think LM has been discovered and this should help them expand their skier visits.

- I will say that 7S produces a good ski product at all three resorts. They do make alot of snow. Of course Mother Nature sure helped this weekend. I experienced some excellent ski conditions at LM and HV this extended weekend (Fri, Sat, Sun and Mon).

Leo wrote:


 Sunday was insane, and goes to show a handful of things. 

1. They need to expand the terrain there with the slopes that are already (and have been) cut.  Put in a lift.

2. They are selling too many tickets, they sold too many season passes, or both.  And honestly, while this past Sunday was really bad, the prior Sunday was hardly better and when one of the two triples broke down the line for the remaining triple may have been longer than anything yesterday.  So it's not like being oversold was exclusive to this past weekend.

I don't want to complain, I'm happy we're even getting to ski.  But I have a feeling Nutting is making more money than ever and essentially we're getting an inferior product.  Long lines, less terrain open, amenities spotty at best.  If you can't hire people (the excuse I keep hearing) then pay a higher wage.  At this point it certainly looks like the revenue is there to support it.  

snowsmith wrote:

I arrived at the HV North Summit parking lot at 9:15 am Sunday morning. The lot was already full. The lift lines were the longest I have ever seen at HV. After 2 runs, I packed it in and drove to Laurel Mountain. The lift lines at LM we’re long by LM standards, but I never waited more than a few minutes to get on a chair. Of course it is MLK weekend and it has snowed almost continuously since Friday night providing excellent conditions for the masses that are showing up to ski and escape the pandemic. It’s now late Sunday night and it is still snowing. I am hoping to get some runs in on Monday morning on some fresh snow.
camp
yesterday (edited yesterday)
Member since 01/30/2005 🔗
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Considering Blue Knob part of the Laurels for this thread.

Skied there yesterday with my wife, first use of my Indy Pass. Was a little crowded by BK standards since they were only running the Expressway triple. My former threshold for wanting to ski BK was Edgeset and Ditch Glade, essentially 100% open. My threshold now is Jack Rabbit and the Expressways (< 50% open). Snow fell throughout the day Sunday and the snow was pretty good, even though scraped on the natural snow only runs open. Yes, they opened natural trails before Laurel did. Even the upper glades were open.

Planned to go solo to Roundtop or another local Epic today (also have a pass there), but given that none have made snow in about 10 days(?), and reading the complaints on Roundtop's Facebook, I decided to go back to BK. A bit more snow fell overnight, and they removed the "Thin Cover" signs, though closed all the glades that were open the day before (I'll never understand BK's mgmt).  Much less crowded today, often ski right on the lift. Scratchy as the new snow was so light. Ropes dropped on most of the glades around noon. Didn't see a single patroller all morning, so maybe volunteer staffing is tough too, and they have to be the ones to drop the ropes. But, why put a rope across what was open the day before when it snowed overnight?

Mask usage was about what you'd expect in this part of PA. Though even lifties, instructors, patrollers, and bartenders were often not masked up. Customers were even worse about it and other than a sign, no enforcement (unlike what I saw at HV over the previous holiday).

I sincerely hope Blue Knob can save itself and last another 60 years.

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Leo
yesterday
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When it was still under Buncher ownership they cut a new slope or two above and beyond the North Summit.  My understanding at the time was the plan would be to put in a new lift up to the top of that area that would service those slopes as well as give more direct and logical access to slopes like Charger, which is hardly ever open and when it is feels like lots of traversing at the top and bottom for one decent headwall.

I could be wrong.  And since years have passed I am sure the "slopes" would need cleaned up but all of the large, mature growth was cleared at the time. 

 

Laurel Hill Crazie wrote:

I'm not sure what terrain expansion is possible at HV 

imp
yesterday
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226 posts
what buncher cut had a very steep section, steeper than anything else around but short and with a road that cut across it. a nightmare for snowmaking and grooming as the road went thru the steepest part.  chair line was staked out and top unload mound partialy done. faces 31 past tubing disaster area
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter
yesterday
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 I hiked these trails several times soon after they were cut. There were I believe 4 trails. One was to be gladed. There was bench, but not a road that cut thru perpendicular to the trails. They were steep and had close to 500 feet of vertical. These trails would have been part of a new village adjacent to the North Summit condos and golf course entrance. The year construction was to begin, 2009, was also the year of the economic collapse. Soon after, Buncher abandoned plans for the real estate development of the new North Summit village and the development of "Paradise Springs" on the adjacent 822 acre parcel. The design of the new slopes, new developments, including Paradise Springs was done by the John Johnson Company of Park City, Utah. The reportedly $1.0 billion dollar resort development collapsed with the great recession and the John Johnson Company, who specialized in ski resort design, went bankrupt. 

I once asked Beancounter Mauch if he planned to proceed with the development of these trails and he provided an incredulous, one word answer, "No!".  You'll never see these trails as long as the Beancounter is in charge.  They maintain HV resort very well, but there is little to no investment into improvements at HV. If something breaks they fix it or replace it with something usually better. And that's about it. I believe the Beancounter thinks HV and LM are competition to his proud offspring, 7S. The step children will not compete with his favorite son.

imp wrote:

what buncher cut had a very steep section, steeper than anything else around but short and with a road that cut across it. a nightmare for snowmaking and grooming as the road went thru the steepest part.  chair line was staked out and top unload mound partialy done. faces 31 past tubing disaster area
RodneyBD - DCSki Supporter
22 hours ago (edited 21 hours ago)
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Thanks for the update and I'll add my two cents.  Arrived at BK yesterday Monday at 2pm for an afternoon of skiing (indy pass use #4).  My love/hate relationship with BK continues.  The good: Sunday night snow was fantastic, still plenty of untracked; the upper mountains glades were all open and skiable; I parked right next to the lodge; the lift line was never more than 2 minutes; and the sunset views were a bonus.

The bad: Snowmaking has always been lacking and seems to be getting worse (lower mountain terrain open: 0%); the glades are such a great selling point, how about a little more offseason maintenance;  BK ownership is absent/offsite and you can always count on some sort of daily mis-management - I went inside to grab a Gatorade, so few masks, felt like I needed hazmat suit.

Almost forgot, for the first time took the back way in yesterday from exit 7 off 99, much faster than going up through Claysburg!    

camp wrote:

Considering Blue Knob part of the Laurels for this thread.

Skied there yesterday with my wife, first use of my Indy Pass. Was a little crowded by BK standards since they were only running the Expressway triple. My former threshold for wanting to ski BK was Edgeset and Ditch Glade, essentially 100% open. My threshold now is Jack Rabbit and the Expressways (< 50% open). Snow fell throughout the day Sunday and the snow was pretty good, even though scraped on the natural snow only runs open. Yes, they opened natural trails before Laurel did. Even the upper glades were open.

Planned to go solo to Roundtop or another local Epic today (also have a pass there), but given that none have made snow in about 10 days(?), and reading the complaints on Roundtop's Facebook, I decided to go back to BK. A bit more snow fell overnight, and they removed the "Thin Cover" signs, though closed all the glades that were open the day before (I'll never understand BK's mgmt).  Much less crowded today, often ski right on the lift. Scratchy as the new snow was so light. Ropes dropped on most of the glades around noon. Didn't see a single patroller all morning, so maybe volunteer staffing is tough too, and they have to be the ones to drop the ropes. But, why put a rope across what was open the day before when it snowed overnight?

Mask usage was about what you'd expect in this part of PA. Though even lifties, instructors, patrollers, and bartenders were often not masked up. Customers were even worse about it and other than a sign, no enforcement (unlike what I saw at HV over the previous holiday).

I sincerely hope Blue Knob can save itself and last another 60 years.

camp
21 hours ago (edited 21 hours ago)
Member since 01/30/2005 🔗
575 posts

RodneyBD wrote:

Almost forgot, for the first time took the back way in yesterday from exit 7 off 99, much faster than going up through Claysburg!    


I always go in through Osterburg > Pavia > State Park. I like the drive through the park, I've heard it's less steep than the other route and much better plowed since it's state park. I guess it's shorter too?

wfyurasko - DCSki Supporter
19 hours ago
Member since 07/27/2014 🔗
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Do they have any signage directing you in and out of Blue Knob? I went about 9 years ago and we got lost leaving in dark flurries. Somehow we made it back to i-99.,

I can see the love-hate relationship, if we had not had an inch or two of snow the day we skied it, I probably would have felt a lot differently about BK. Like Timberline, it's a great spot that needs good management.

Is the rasta hut still there?
camp
19 hours ago
Member since 01/30/2005 🔗
575 posts

wfyurasko wrote:

Do they have any signage directing you in and out of Blue Knob? I went about 9 years ago and we got lost leaving in dark flurries. Somehow we made it back to i-99.,

Is the rasta hut still there?

 There are signs for the State Park, which is where I go. There may be signs for the ski resort further up 99, but I get off too soon to see them.

The hut has been renamed and apparently rebuilt after some storm damage.

msprings
15 hours ago
Member since 07/4/2014 🔗
133 posts

At 7 Springs, the last new restaurant was Foggy Brews in 2014, the last new lift was Gunnar in 2008, last new slope was Yodeler in 2010ish, no new condos, or much else that was brand new or an outright addition.

Continual investments have been made in upgrading the lodge, hotel rooms, redone parking lot, new HVAC units, etc... 

Plenty of upgrades and improvements made, just more of an evolution than anything.

I can't help but feel that covid has presented them with a unique opportunity. Lift ticket sales are limited based on terrain, no time could be greater to add more slopes and lifts. At most ski areas, train expansion is usually fueled by real estate development. Due to the pandemic, residential vacation real estate has never been in greater demand. Maybe we'll get lucky, and these two factors will push for upgrades at the resort.

 I believe the Beancounter thinks HV and LM are competition to his proud offspring, 7S. The step children will not compete with his favorite son.

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