Massanutten - guidance for the upcoming season
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wgo
4 months ago (edited 4 months ago)
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Mnut has provided some guidance on the policies and procedures for the upcoming season:

https://www.massresort.com/about/recovery/recovery/#page-946

Of note:

  • Capacity will be limited, with first priority given to passholders/property owners and second priority given to overnight guests. 
  • Assume that max capacity will be reached during peak periods and weekends
  • There may be no walk up ticket sales at all, regardless of capacity
  • No sharing of a lift chair with members who are not in your party

My son and already have our season passes, but my wife and daughter do do since they did not think they would be going enough to break even. I'll probably go ahead and switch to a family pass given the new policy (I already checked with Mnut and they will credit the cost of the 2 individual passes we already bought towards a family pass)

 

 

 

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago
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Massanutten is about to end the early season discount pricing.  There is a new Family Pass.  The prices will go up one more time on Dec. 11

The night hours will be a bit less than usual.

Mon: 9am-9pm

Tue, Wed, Thu: 9am-5pm

Fri, Sat, Sun, holidays: 9am-9pm

wgo
2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)
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I had a very pleasant conversation with Ian from the Massanutten ski office and I have some tentative information that I can share. I must emphasize that the info in this post is his best guess at this point, not a firm commitment. The final information should be available at massresort.com/ski by mid-November. Having said that, here is what I learned:

  • The current thinking is that season passholders will NOT have to make reservations. They should be able to just show up at the resort, boot up in their car, and start skiing or boarding.
  • Property owners, overnight guests, and day-trippers will need reservations. It will probably work something like this:
    • Around 30 days out, property owners will be able to make reservations
    • Overnight guests will be able to make reservations around 21 days out
    • If any slots are still left, then people wishing to just buy a ticket for the day can make reservations starting at 10 to 14 days out
  • Anyone buying tickets online will still need to actually get the physical lift ticket at the resort. The resort is still working on a plan to spread people out to avoid having large groups congregate in a small area when picking up the tickets.
  • The resort may extend the Nov 1 deadline for full refunds - they recognize the public health situation remains fraught and seem to willing to adjust refund and deferral policies accordingly. 

Given the first point I went ahead and turned the 2 individual passes I had previously bought into a 4 person family pass. Massanutten had previously let me know that I could apply the previous cost toward the purchase of the family pass, so that is what I did. Even if we don't quite break even on the marginal cost of the pass for my wife and daughter the convenience and flexibility will more than make up for that.

fosphenytoin - DCSki Supporter
2 months ago
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Thanks for the info.  What about IndyPass holder, does it categorize to 1st bullet point as pass holder?  
I have not gotten IndyPass but am considering.  
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marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Thanks for the info.  Sounds like they are working hard to come up with a system that balances access for the different types of folks.  I would guess that they'll sell a fair number of Special Value Passes and Family Passes.

I went ahead and got a Full Season Pass since I plan to be at Mnut for two different weeks in January.  Hoping the weather will be good for another short stay in late February as well.

wgo
2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)
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That's a great question and one that I did not ask. I would suggest calling the Mnut ski office, 1-540-289-4954. I have always found them to be very responsive. Let us know what you find out!

fosphenytoin wrote:

Thanks for the info.  What about IndyPass holder, does it categorize to 1st bullet point as pass holder?  
I have not gotten IndyPass but am considering.  
wgo
2 months ago
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I think it has been posted elsewhere, but just in case: as of now the current thinking is that Indy Pass holders will not need a reservation. Current Winter planning guide (updated as of Nov 8) here: Massanutten Winter Planning

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)
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wgo wrote:

I think it has been posted elsewhere, but just in case: as of now the current thinking is that Indy Pass holders will not need a reservation. Current Winter planning guide (updated as of Nov 8) here: Massanutten Winter Planning

 I confirmed that for Indy, the thinking is that you can just go to the ticket window per usual.  I stopped by Massanutten a few weeks ago when I was in the area for another reason.  It was right after the winter ops plan was defined.  They were busily re-working the interior of the buildings.

Mnut was very busy in Sept and Oct.  So got plenty of experience with handling capacity limits for activities and how to keep people spaced out.  The waterpark was open with timed sessions and other adjustments.  The lifts were running for mountain biking.

The advance purchase system for the rental gear will tell people which building to go to.  Skiers will get gear from the usual rental building.  Snowboarders will go to the ski school building.  Families with both skiers and riders will also be able to get everything they need from the ski school building.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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As noted a month ago, Massanutten is using a 3-tier approach based on timing for buying advanced lift tickets online.  Probably applies to tickets for other activities such as the zipline or waterpark.  Property Owners get access to available tickets 30 days in advance, Resort Guests have a 20-day window, and everyone else can buy tickets starting 10 days before a date of interest.

As of Dec. 4, I can see tickets available for Sat, Dec. 19 when logged into my Mnut owner account but nothing earlier.  Presumably if Mnut can open earlier then tickets will become available.

I saw a few small white patches on the Mnut webcams this week.  I think that means at least some snowguns were tested and are ready to go when Mother Nature cooperates.

wgo
one month ago
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Weather forecast from Sunday on looks favorable for a few days (knock on wood). Assuming a Dec 19 opening date I will probably wait until Dec 21 for my first turns of the season (kids will be out of school then).
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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The morning update on the Massanutten website about snow conditions and open trails also includes a note about availability of day tickets.  Best to buy in advance online, but Mnut will sell walk up tickets when there are some left.  Tickets sold out for Mon, Dec. 21.  Expected to sell out on Dec. 22 too.

No night skiing yet.  Perhaps by this weekend after Dec. 25.  Always have reduced hours on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Daytime snowmaking at Mnut on Christmas Day!  They have started on Upper Showtime.  Lots of snow guns on on multiple trails.  Pointed high per usual during operating hours.  A full 8 lanes for tubing.  Given the forecast for the next few days, hopefully can build up some solid bases before the next r*** event.
wgo
29 days ago
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Cool. I'll probably head out there again once Showtime is open.
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Upper Showtime opening today!  Non-stop snowmaking for a couple days and nights can really make a difference.

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wgo
27 days ago
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Unfortunate news to report. Lifts 4 and 6 will be closed at 4:30 today, which means DJ will be closed. I was planning on heading up for a couple hours this afternoon but I am cancelling those plans now. I called MNut to ask about this and the issue is lack of staffing.
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wgo wrote:

Unfortunate news to report. Lifts 4 and 6 will be closed at 4:30 today, which means DJ will be closed. I was planning on heading up for a couple hours this afternoon but I am cancelling those plans now. I called MNut to ask about this and the issue is lack of staffing.

 Oh gosh.  Not good news.  I've been seeing Massanutten's ads for staffing (on Facebook?) and was concerned about how things were going.  

Glad they're able to keep those lifts open in the daytime.

Woody

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
27 days ago (edited 27 days ago)
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wgo wrote:

Unfortunate news to report. Lifts 4 and 6 will be closed at 4:30 today, which means DJ will be closed. I was planning on heading up for a couple hours this afternoon but I am cancelling those plans now. I called MNut to ask about this and the issue is lack of staffing.

I'm confused.  The snow conditions update for this afternoon said: "Lift 3 and Geronimo will close at 4:30pm today.  "  Looking at the webcam, Lift 4 for Southern Comfort is clearly running as of 5:30pm.  The table shows Lifts 5 and 6 as open as well.

Mnut slope tickets were/are sold out for Dec. 28 and Dec. 29.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Looks like the Last Chair ticket for $20 applies to every day.  Difference is that if there is no night skiing then it starts at 3pm.  When there is night skiing, it's good for 7:00-9:00pm.

Have confirmed that buying lift tickets online as a Massanutten property owner gives me access much sooner than the general public.  Will be there with friends over MLK weekend so want to make sure that they have lift tickets for Sat and Sun.  I'm guessing that timeshare "guests" will be buying lift tickets that weekend once their window opens up.

wgo
26 days ago
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That is a different message than what was shown this morning. They must have decided to allocate their staff to running 4/6 rather than 3. 

 

marzNC wrote:

wgo wrote:

Unfortunate news to report. Lifts 4 and 6 will be closed at 4:30 today, which means DJ will be closed. I was planning on heading up for a couple hours this afternoon but I am cancelling those plans now. I called MNut to ask about this and the issue is lack of staffing.

I'm confused.  The snow conditions update for this afternoon said: "Lift 3 and Geronimo will close at 4:30pm today.  "  Looking at the webcam, Lift 4 for Southern Comfort is clearly running as of 5:30pm.  The table shows Lifts 5 and 6 as open as well.

Mnut slope tickets were/are sold out for Dec. 28 and Dec. 29.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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wgo wrote:

That is a different message than what was shown this morning. They must have decided to allocate their staff to running 4/6 rather than 3. 

 

marzNC wrote:

wgo wrote:

Unfortunate news to report. Lifts 4 and 6 will be closed at 4:30 today, which means DJ will be closed. I was planning on heading up for a couple hours this afternoon but I am cancelling those plans now. I called MNut to ask about this and the issue is lack of staffing.

I'm confused.  The snow conditions update for this afternoon said: "Lift 3 and Geronimo will close at 4:30pm today.  "  Looking at the webcam, Lift 4 for Southern Comfort is clearly running as of 5:30pm.  The table shows Lifts 5 and 6 as open as well.

Mnut slope tickets were/are sold out for Dec. 28 and Dec. 29.

 Must have come up with a few more lifties.  Or pulled people out of the office.  A friend tried a few times to call the office today to ask a question and no one ever picked up.  Takes more people to run Lifts 4 & 6, instead of Lift 3.

Not running Lift 3 and having Geronimo closed also helps to save the snow there.  Hope there isn't too much of a washout later this week.  I get to Mnut for my usual week on Jan. 3.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Mnut is going to close Geronimo and Lift 3 at 4:30 again on Dec. 29.

Looking at the webcams at lunch time, this is probably the best holiday week for a season pass holder to go skiing.  I assume the lift lines at the base are usually quite long and normally filled with novices so that the lifts have to stop fairly often.  From what I saw, the lines are short and the people loading know how to get on the chair without getting tangled up with the gate or people loading with them.

Tickets for lifts and snow tubing are sold out for Dec. 29 and Dec. 30.

wgo
26 days ago
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 Lines seem to get somewhat longer in the afternoon. Trying to decide if it will be less crowded heading out tomorrow afternoon, or Sunday right after lunch.

marzNC wrote:

Mnut is going to close Geronimo and Lift 3 at 4:30 again on Dec. 29.

Looking at the webcams at lunch time, this is probably the best holiday week for a season pass holder to go skiing.  I assume the lift lines at the base are usually quite long and normally filled with novices so that the lifts have to stop fairly often.  From what I saw, the lines are short and the people loading know how to get on the chair without getting tangled up with the gate or people loading with them.

Tickets for lifts and snow tubing are sold out for Dec. 29 and Dec. 30.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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wgo wrote:


 Lines seem to get somewhat longer in the afternoon. Trying to decide if it will be less crowded heading out tomorrow afternoon, or Sunday right after lunch.

 I would guess Sunday afternoon would be less crowded than tomorrow.  Mostly because people staying in timeshare units will mostly be checking out on Sat or Sun morning.  But I've never paid attention to the week that includes New Year's Eve before.

wgo
26 days ago (edited 26 days ago)
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Screenshot from the Mnut webcam at 3:12 pm. Pretty decent line for lift 4, and you can see the line for lift 4 extends up the slope.

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marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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wgo wrote:

Screenshot from the Mnut webcam at 3:12 pm. Pretty decent line for lift 4, and you can see the line for lift 4 extends up the slope.

Given the spacing between people waiting in line, those are not what I consider long waits.  Have you seen how long the lines at the base can get during holiday weekends on Sat and Sun between 11:30 and 2:30?  I wouldn't wait in them but timed them often enough from inside the lodge to know the wait could be 20-25 minutes.

Agree that the lines are longer after lunch.  I wonder if that's because 8-hour tickets sold out so more people bought 4-hour tickets.  Most people would figure then there was less reason to get up early while on vacation to ski in the morning. I could imagine that some people would decide to ski between lunch and dinner.

wgo
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Agreed that the lines are not bad, especially given the spacing. Just wanted to give people a sense of what the lines look like on a Sold Out day.
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Interesting, Lift 3 for Geronimo is running as of 6:00pm.  Guess they solved the staffing issue, at least for today.   Good webcam placement is really helpful.
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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The Dec. 30 Snow Conditions for Mnut doesn't mention anything special about Lift 3.  Can see that snowmaking is happening on lower DJ as of 10:30am.  Snow guns were on by 9:30pm last night.  Should be cold enough for more snowmaking tonight before the warm front moves in.

Tickets are sold out for Dec. 30, but available starting Jan. 1.  Snow tubing sessions are mostly sold out for Jan. 1-3.

wgo
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Sunday may be relatively uncrowded, especially if the forecasted AM showers keep people away. I am also thinking that the currently open slopes have enough base to survive the warmth/rain later this week.
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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wgo wrote:

Sunday may be relatively uncrowded, especially if the forecasted AM showers keep people away. I am also thinking that the currently open slopes have enough base to survive the warmth/rain later this week.

 The ticket cancellation policy provides for refunds if someone cancels at least 24 hours in advance.  Could well be that some people have already cancelled for Fri and Sat given the weather forecast and that's why there are tickets available.

Bryce has lift tickets left for later this week.  But will probably sell out of snow tubing tickets soon.

Agree that the base on the core trails is deep enough so that a normal warm up for a few days won't really matter.  Hopefully Upper Showtime has enough base to stay open next week.

Vermont
25 days ago (edited 25 days ago)
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wgo wrote:

Screenshot from the Mnut webcam at 3:12 pm. Pretty decent line for lift 4, and you can see the line for lift 4 extends up the slope.

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 Whoa those people look tight together no social distancing and  without much organization  and look at the crowds coming down the hill right towards the lift line looking dangerous, seeing people wiped out on the ground, imagine a novice trying to ski with a pack of people at the bottom to potential run into,  not well thought out at all, thanks for the picture! Worth a thousand words as they say

wgo
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 The only really warm day is Saturday (~60 degrees). Rest of next week has highs in the lower 50s or upper 40s with no rain forecasted. I think Upper Showtime will be fine. I guess it depends on whether they managed to build up enough base. They are reporting a base of 34 inches, but that probably applies more for the slopes they have been working on since day 1 (DJ and SC).

marzNC wrote:

wgo wrote:


Agree that the base on the core trails is deep enough so that a normal warm up for a few days won't really matter.  Hopefully Upper Showtime has enough base to stay open next week.

wgo
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It's tricky for MNut because they don't really have a lot of space for people to spread out at the base, at least compared to a place like timberline. I appreciate that MNut is showing the liftlines on their webcam so that we can make informed decisions, in contrast to at least one other local resort which decided to point their web cam in a way that no longer shows the liftlines.

 Whoa those people look tight together no social distancing and  without much organization  and look at the crowds coming down the hill right towards the lift line looking dangerous, seeing people wiped out on the ground, imagine a novice trying to ski with a pack of people at the bottom to potential run into,  not well thought out at all, thanks for the picture! Worth a thousand words as they say

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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The end of the holiday week is in sight.  Even with the warm weather the last few days, Geronimo is still open.  Lift 3 is closing at 4:30pm but that may well be both to decrease the need for staff as well as to preserve the base.  Hopefully night time temps will allow for another round of snowmaking in the coming week.

While lift tickets were easy to get for my friend's daughter for MLK weekend, snow tubing tickets were already pretty scarce on Jan. 18-19.  Although might release more once it's known how many lanes can be open that weekend.

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marzNC wrote:

The end of the holiday week is in sight.  Even with the warm weather the last few days, Geronimo is still open.  Lift 3 is closing at 4:30pm but that may well be both to decrease the need for staff as well as to preserve the base.  Hopefully night time temps will allow for another round of snowmaking in the coming week.

 In the afternoon update, there was not mention about an early closing for Lift 3.  Could see on the webcam that it was running at 6pm.

wgo
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Nice conditions today at MNut. Crowds very light by the time we got there around 2 PM, probably due to the timeshare crowd checking out Sunday morning plus the AM dampness. Some fog to deal with but for the most part visibility was fine. Coverage was good and snow was soft but not slushy on DJ and Showtime. 10 day forecast looks OK for snowmaking, hopefully they can get more runs open.
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Some good snowmaking temps are on the way - any guesses as to when they'll try to open Para Dice and Diamond Jim?
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RodneyBD wrote:

Some good snowmaking temps are on the way - any guesses as to when they'll try to open Para Dice and Diamond Jim?

 Diamond Jim is a core trail.  Has been open since Day 1.  Harder to guess about ParaDice.  Will probably work on the other blue trails off Lift 5 first since that gets far more traffic from most of the folks who ski Mnut.

At Mnut for a week.  With my friend JF who has the best luck for snow.  She only comes with me once or twice a season, and often it snows.

wgo
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If so, hopefully Mak Attack will get some attention but I am guessing Pacesetter and Mass Transit are next on the list. 

marzNC wrote:

 Diamond Jim is a core trail.  Has been open since Day 1.  Harder to guess about ParaDice.  Will probably work on the other blue trails off Lift 5 first since that gets far more traffic from most of the folks who ski Mnut.

wgo
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@marzNC, looks like snowmaking started up again but so far is focused on resurfacing existing open trails. Do you have any inside intel on what the next trails to get snowmaking will be? Thanks!
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wgo wrote:

@marzNC, looks like snowmaking started up again but so far is focused on resurfacing existing open trails. Do you have any inside intel on what the next trails to get snowmaking will be? Thanks!

 Sorry, haven't talked to anyone in the office this trip.  I would guess the blues off Lift 5 would come next based on what's happened in recent years.  Pacesetter has been starting as a groomer and then gets built up as a terrain park.

Conditions on DJ were very nice this morning.  With the cold temps and snow guns on, there were very few other people. Even in comparison to yesterday morning.  Heading back out shortly.

wgo
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No snowmaking last night, it would appear. I guess the humidity was to high or there was an inversion?
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wgo wrote:

No snowmaking last night, it would appear. I guess the humidity was to high or there was an inversion?

 Perhaps a bit of an inversion but mostly the really cold air didn't make it to this part of VA.  Air temp on the mountain never got much below 30.

The snow conditions were quite nice today.  The 12+ hours of snowmaking made quite a difference for DJ and Showtime.  They did some nice grooming and the icy patches on Thu afternoon were gone.

I think the combination of College Days and Last Chair for $20 brought in more late afternoon folks than usual for this first week of January.  Plus the cold makes locals think of snowsports a lot more than when it's in the 50s in the valley.  The high was 37.

HVdad
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Wow, massanutten gets a lot of press here.

wgo
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Ha, I guess that is true!

This past week was not as productive for snowmaking as I had hoped. Overnight temps stubbornly refuse to go below the lower 30's or upper 20's and humidity remains high, leading to marginal snowmaking conditions.

HVdad wrote:

Wow, massanutten gets a lot of press here.

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wgo wrote:

Ha, I guess that is true!

This past week was not as productive for snowmaking as I had hoped. Overnight temps stubbornly refuse to go below the lower 30's or upper 20's and humidity remains high, leading to marginal snowmaking conditions.

 The two 12+ hours of snowmaking last week really did make a difference though.  DJ and Upper Showtime were much better on Sunday morning in comparison to earlier in the week.  Lower Showtime and Geronimo were also staying in better shape by the late afternoons on Friday and Saturday.

There was a big fan gun starting to build a base at the bottom of Paradice where Yee Ha comes into DJ.

Pretty clear that the usual temp inversions are what happened for Mnut.  A local friend who lives 15 min away was surprised there was no snowmaking Sat night because it got to 27 degrees at her house.

Since there was a race on DJ last weekend, the ski/board teams were on Lift 5 on Sunday morning.  My friend who sticks to Lower Showtime said that made it feel busy.  But in general, relatively few people in the morning.  Very empty at noon when we left.

Saturday during the day was relatively uncrowded as well.  When I left at 2:00, the wait for Southern Comfort was only 5 min.  Does change the situation no having Children's Ski School at all (usually ends at 2:00).  But in the late afternoon it was busier than midweek after 4pm when Spec Value Passes are good, as well as night tickets.

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Called to ask how Indy Pass reservations work (answer: there are none, just show up and get your ticket).  I asked what's up with snow making for the weekend- plan is to get Mass Transit open.  Para Dice not yet.
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RodneyBD wrote:

Called to ask how Indy Pass reservations work (answer: there are none, just show up and get your ticket).  I asked what's up with snow making for the weekend- plan is to get Mass Transit open.  Para Dice not yet.

Thanks for the update.

Getting Mass Transit and Yee Ha open makes a big difference for folks who mainly ski Lifts 5 and 6.  Especially if they are interested in staying on the mountain and having lunch at the Mid-Mountain Grill (Fri-Mon) during the holiday weekend.

Getting ParaDice open before MLK has been rare the last few years.  Hopefully it will be open by late Jan if the next cold front is cold enough on the mountain.

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If anyone wants to practice going uphill on skis or just wants more exercise, that's an option at Massanutten.  I saw an old guy with full AT gear on DJ last week.  He did at least two laps, if not more that morning.  I stopped to ask ski patrol about the uphill policy. The deal is that you have to have a pass or lift ticket, but otherwise if you want to go uphill on skis that's fine on any of the trails when the slopes are open.
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As of Tue, Jan. 12, there are tickets for slope use at Massanutten for the MLK weekend Jan. 16-18 (Sat, Sun, Mon).  Tickets are released for the general public 10 days before the date.

Snow tubing sold out for the holiday weekend a while ago.  I don't think any were available for the general public.  That's pretty much the same as usual since property owners have always been able to buy tickets early.  Pretty sure capacity is even more limited than usual.

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Not cold enough for snowmaking last night, but it did snow at Massanutten!

As expected, lift tickets are sold out for the MLK weekend.

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Happy to report that snowmaking has started on Mass Transit.  The guns were already on full blast at the top of the trail by 6pm on Jan. 16.  The lower section guns were starting up an hour later.

Webcams are showing snowmaking on lower Southern Comfort as of 11pm.

I'm back at Mnut for a week.  Not many people skiing on Sat evening.  Don't know how much the relatively cold temps were a factor compared to the limited number of tickets that were sold out well in advance.  A few people showed up at the window around 5:00 totally surprised that there aren't tickets available when I was picking up the tickets I bought in early Jan for a friend's tween.

wgo
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Thanks for the report. Planning on bringing the family out to Mnut again on the 24th. Hopefully mass transit and yee ha will be open by then
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wgo wrote:

Thanks for the report. Planning on bringing the family out to Mnut again on the 24th. Hopefully mass transit and yee ha will be open by then

 Mnut Snow Conditions mentioned that snowmaking started on Mass Transit and Yee Ha.  Only snow guns running this morning after lifts started up were on Mass Transit.  Hoping that a couple more cold nights will do it. :-)

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The skiing experience this MLK weekend Sunday was the best I've ever had in the past dozen years.  The limits put on tickets sales clearly made a huge difference.  Parking lots #4 and #5 were completely empty.  The waits for the base lifts were probably under 15 min around lunch time, and for only about an hour.  The wait for Lift 5 was never more than 5 min.  My friends and I skied 9:00-3:00, with lunch outside at the Mid-Mountain Grill in the sunshine.

Snow conditions were very good in the morning after a night of snowmaking.  With fewer people, still good at 3:00 on Showtime.  DJ had slick areas per usual after mid-morning.

The number of beginners was much lower than usual.  In general, a higher percentage of people had a decent idea of how to keep sliding without falling.

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Snowmaking started up on Pacesetter late this afternoon. :-)

Also started working on lower Mass Transit.  Guns were on all day on the upper section and Yee Ha.  Sled guns in addition to the pole guns.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Made good progress with the initial snowmaking for Mass Transit, especially on the upper section.  Hopefully should be open by the weekend if the temps get into the 20s the rest of the week as predicted.  The new snow piles need a few days to drain before the groomers can do their work.
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Really nice conditions all day today now that the MLK holiday crowds are gone.  The warmer temps meant that DJ softened and was fun in the afternoon, which wasn't the case last weekend.  Upper Showtime stayed so nice that my intermediate friend had a chance not only to ski it for the first time in the morning, but to lap it a few times after lunch.
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The upper section of Mass Transit had it's initial grooming.  Yee Ha looking good too.

The surprise is that snowmaking has started on Paradice!  Guns were on at the top flat section all day.  By 5:00 the guns for the curve were on as well.

DJ and Upper Snowtime were wonderful in the morning.  Both were slick in the afternoon as expected since it stayed pretty cold.

wgo
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That's great news. Family day trip has been pushed back a week from the 24th to the 31st, maybe that gives Paradice a chance to open.

 

marzNC wrote:

The surprise is that snowmaking has started on Paradice!  Guns were on at the top flat section all day.  By 5:00 the guns for the curve were on as well.

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Another great day at Mnut for January.  Mass Transit and Yee Ha open with plenty of coverage.  Made it that much easier to have lunch at the Mid-Mountain Grill in the sunshine.  Warm but not too warm.  So DJ softened and Lower Showtime didn't get slushy at all before the sun was behind the peak.

Heard that there are plans to add plumbing later in 2021 so that the Mid-Mountain building will have indoor restrooms.  Although the trailer works just fine as far as I'm concerned.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Paradice might open later today!  Pacesetter is opening today for sure.  Plus it's still cold enough to keep snowmaking going during the day on the upper mountain.  Snow guns are still on near the base as of 8am.  Looks like they are starting to work on the CMB Terrain Park, at least to build up big whales on the bottom half.

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wgo
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With the snow later this week maybe some bumps on Paradice by next weekend?
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wgo wrote:

With the snow later this week maybe some bumps on Paradice by next weekend?

 Now that the snowstorm has shifted to ending on Thu, I'm trying to figure out how to get back to Mnut for next weekend.  Together with the teen who learned to ski bumps at the top of Paradice with a ski school instructor.  That was back when he was 8 and the instructor had a group of 4 tween boys who were ready.  He loved the bumps and still does. :-)

Paradice is by far my favorite trail.  Can't really remember the last time it was open when I was at Mnut since I've been skiing out west more in January and/or February in recent years.

wgo
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I am trying to see if I can get out Thursday morning for some freshies, and then return on Sunday with the family. Thursday is not very likely though.
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Paradice is open!

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marzNC wrote:

Paradice is open!

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I'm still undecided if skiing makes sense for me this winter, but if I go anywhere it would be Massanutten. Now that both Lift 6 runs are open, I am thinking a little harder. It'd be midweek if I go.

wojo
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I went on a Friday at 9am, it was EMPTY with a capital E until around 2pm.  Hopefully I will get back once or twice, trying to live up to the travel restrictions on PA, so sticking to the 'Nut and I hit Bryce and plan on T'line this week.  
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wfyurasko wrote:

I'm still undecided if skiing makes sense for me this winter, but if I go anywhere it would be Massanutten. Now that both Lift 6 runs are open, I am thinking a little harder. It'd be midweek if I go.

 Having spent two full weeks staying at Massanutten in January, I have to say that as a season pass holder this has been a very good season . . . and it's not even half over.  In general, there are fewer people during day sessions who have no idea how to get down a slope.  With limited ticket sales, even weekends are less crowded.  For that matter, MLK weekend was probably the best I've ever had.  I was skiing with a tween who got a chance to ski the top of Lift 5 for the first time.  The snowmaking overnight meant the snow conditions were very good and having fewer people made it that much easier for her to follow me making nice medium round turns all the way down Upper and Lower Showtime non-stop.  It was also easier to practice side-slipping just below mid-station even on Sat afternoon because there were fewer people around.

With the snowstorm this week, I'm working on a plan to get back to Mnut next weekend. :-)

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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wojo wrote:

I went on a Friday at 9am, it was EMPTY with a capital E until around 2pm.  Hopefully I will get back once or twice, trying to live up to the travel restrictions on PA, so sticking to the 'Nut and I hit Bryce and plan on T'line this week.  

 Mnut is always empty 9:00-11:00, often still empty on Lift 5 until noon.  That's the case on Saturdays.  Sundays are even less busy, partially because people staying on resort are checking out and those who rent gear are unlikely to ski that day.  They are more likely to go tubing before driving home.

Afternoons after 2:30 or so seem to be busier this season.  Season pass holders who are students of all ages start showing up.  But most of the people who find Upper Showtime or DJ too much for them only try it once.  So they are not a factor for long.

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marzNC wrote:

wfyurasko wrote:

I'm still undecided if skiing makes sense for me this winter, but if I go anywhere it would be Massanutten. Now that both Lift 6 runs are open, I am thinking a little harder. It'd be midweek if I go.

 Having spent two full weeks staying at Massanutten in January, I have to say that as a season pass holder this has been a very good season . . . and it's not even half over.  In general, there are fewer people during day sessions who have no idea how to get down a slope.  With limited ticket sales, even weekends are less crowded.  For that matter, MLK weekend was probably the best I've ever had.  I was skiing with a tween who got a chance to ski the top of Lift 5 for the first time.  The snowmaking overnight meant the snow conditions were very good and having fewer people made it that much easier for her to follow me making nice medium round turns all the way down Upper and Lower Showtime non-stop.  It was also easier to practice side-slipping just below mid-station even on Sat afternoon because there were fewer people around.

With the snowstorm this week, I'm working on a plan to get back to Mnut next weekend. :-)

 Are they making snow daily when conditions permit?

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wfyurasko wrote:

 Are they making snow daily when conditions permit?

 That was certainly the case last week.  Snowmaking continued on the upper mountain as late into the morning as possible when it was cold enough.  Early in the week temps there was a night when didn't get low enough until around 5am, but it was clear when we got on the slopes at 9am that there had been snowmaking and grooming overnight.  Snowguns on Upper Showtime and DJ were left on a little longer on cold mornings than on the easier trails. But even for those trails, snow guns were still on for the first hour or so.  In that case the guns were pointed high and putting out dry snow.

The goal is to get 100% open ASAP.  More terrain probably means being able to justify selling more tickets.  The demand clearly exists on weekends, although Mnut didn't sell out except over MLK weekend (Sat, Sun, Mon).  By building a very deep base, will be able to keep all slopes open longer after Pres. Day.  That means refreshing the areas that get a lot of sun as often as possible, such as Geronimo or Lower Showtime.  Snowmaking also happens as often as possible for the snow tubing lanes.

2017-18 was the first season after Massanutten built a 2-mile water pipe to supply water on the mountain for both snowmaking and the mountain golf course.  They are now drawing not only from ponds but also from a creek, so no longer have a limited water supply.  That makes a huge difference when it's cold enough for daytime snowmaking on trails not opened yet for 3+ days in a row.

Here's the text of the public notice from June 2017 about the Draft Water Withdrawal Permit for Massanutten.

"Great Eastern Resort Management, Inc. has applied for a permit for the Massanutten Resort Surface Water Withdrawal Project to meet the Resort’s water supply needs for snowmaking and for golf course irrigation. The permit will allow the applicant to withdraw water from Quail Run and to install associated water lines for transport to the Resort’s snowmaking facility on Massanutten Mountain and to Painters Pond, an impoundment of Stony Run. The permit will also allow the applicant to withdraw water from Painters Pond for snowmaking and golf course and ski slope irrigation, and to withdraw water for golf course irrigation and back-up supply for snowmaking from an on-site pond (Woodstone Lake) on an unnamed tributary to Quail Run. The proposed activity would affect permanently 0.05 acre (64 linear feet) of Quail Run for installation of a new intake. Installation of the water line would result in temporary impacts to 0.1 acre of palustrine emergent wetland and 68 linear feet of a stream channel. The activity proposed in the permit will affect Quail Run, Stony Run, and unnamed tributaries to Stony Run in the South Fork Shenandoah River watershed. A watershed is the land area drained by a river and its incoming streams. DEQ’s preliminary decision is to issue the permit."

Argent - DCSki Supporter
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I’m at Massanutten now. Lines on lift 5 are manageable and no lines on lift 6. Snow is okay, but a few icy and granular spots. 
marzNC - DCSki Supporter
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Argent wrote:

I’m at Massanutten now. Lines on lift 5 are manageable and no lines on lift 6. Snow is okay, but a few icy and granular spots. 

 What time did you start skiing?  Parts of DJ are often icy after the first hour or so on a weekend.  Mass Transit tends to have the roughest surface.  It gets a lot of sun.

Never a line for Lift 6.  Most people who on the slopes at Mnut aren't the type to want to load that lift, much less ski an "expert" trail.  At least not more than once.

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Looking at the webcam at 6pm on Jan. 24 . . . it's snowing at Massanutten!
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