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11 days ago

Just got this email from Timberline Mountain.    A high speed six person quad is beyond anything I could have imagined them doing.     Cuts the ride time down to 5-6 minutes from what used to be about 12.   This is just incredible news and gives us some positive news that we all need at this time.     If they are doing that with the lifts I can’t wait to see what they’ll do with the rest of the mountain.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nt1SXDwVug&feature=emb_logo

 

Officials with Perfect North Slopes, the new owners of Timberline Mountain, have announced that skiers and snowboarders will be riding to the top on a brand new 6-passenger high speed chairlift next winter. The brand new Doppelmayr 6-passenger lift will be the first of its kind in West Virginia. In addition, the ski resort will have a 4-passenger mid-mountain chairlift that will service beginner and intermediate terrain along with easy access to a race course, terrain park, and most trail-side lodging. Other improvements include a re-graded learning area with a conveyor carpet lift, extensive upgrades to the snowmaking system, a fully remodeled rental shop, consolidated food service facilities, and an updated outdoor area for a fresh sense of arrival.

The resort, which originally opened in the early 80’s, fell into bankruptcy in 2019 and was not open for this previous ski season. Work to restore the ski area began immediately after the purchase by Perfect North Slopes in December.  “We look forward to participating in the economic development of Tucker County and we’re excited to announce the significant investment in Timberline Mountain’s infrastructure that will take place this summer.  I believe skiers and snowboarders next season are going to really enjoy the new experience on this very special mountain,” says Chip Perfect, President of Perfect North Slopes and CEO of Timberline Mountain.  

Perfect’s family has been in the winter sport business for over 40-years, with the operation of the Lawrenceburg, Indiana resort.  Perfect is also a member of the Indiana State Senate.

Timberline Mountain is nestled in Canaan Valley and features 1,000 feet of vertical drop and has a variety of terrain for skiers and snowboarders of all abilities.  

11 days ago

Double Wow!

11 days ago

superCalifragilisticexpialidocious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
The Colonel

10 days ago

I only visited Timberline once because I felt like it was falling far short of its potential. Between 21st century lifts and US 48/Corridor H reaching all the way to Davis noe, a return trip is much more attactive. Even with average snowmaking, it could really be a destination for DC skiers. I think we’re going to find out.

JimK - DCSki Columnist
10 days ago

The Colonel wrote:

superCalifragilisticexpialidocious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
The Colonel

+1.  BRAVO!

I think the six pack is definitely a play for Balt-Wash market.  The locals would have been happy with a second hand, but reliable fixed grip double chair:-)

10 days ago

They will instantly become a major player in the Mid-A. 

10 days ago

JimK wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

superCalifragilisticexpialidocious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
The Colonel

+1.  BRAVO!

I think the six pack is definitely a play for Balt-Wash market.  The locals would have been happy with a second hand, but reliable fixed grip double chair:-)

The locals who wanted a return to the TL they knew 5-10 years ago must be in shock?!!!

interesting question: where are all these new customers going to sleep…

10 days ago

This is awesome news! The best snow I ever skied in the mid A was at Canaan V about 20 years ago the only time I skied there

never tried TL , they sounded like promising owners when I spoke to a manager of Perfect ,this is just perfect!

10 days ago

The Colonel wrote:

JimK wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

superCalifragilisticexpialidocious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
The Colonel

+1.  BRAVO!

I think the six pack is definitely a play for Balt-Wash market.  The locals would have been happy with a second hand, but reliable fixed grip double chair:-)

The locals who wanted a return to the TL they knew 5-10 years ago must be in shock?!!!

interesting question: where are all these new customers going to sleep…

I think the more prescient question is where will people park. At 2.5 hours from a good chunk of N. VA, a lot of folks will daytrip it on weekends. That 6 pack will handle a lot of people and if there’s decent snowmaking, the mountain has ample terrain to accomodate them. Parking on the other hand is a more limited asset.

10 days ago

Timberline Mountain Ski Patrol is actively recruiting Volunteer ski patrollers for the coming season. Contact us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TimberlineSkiPatrol/?ref=br_rs

10 days ago

johnfmh wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

JimK wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

superCalifragilisticexpialidocious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
The Colonel

+1.  BRAVO!

I think the six pack is definitely a play for Balt-Wash market.  The locals would have been happy with a second hand, but reliable fixed grip double chair:-)

The locals who wanted a return to the TL they knew 5-10 years ago must be in shock?!!!

interesting question: where are all these new customers going to sleep…

I think the more prescient question is where will people park. At 2.5 hours from a good chunk of N. VA, a lot of folks will daytrip it on weekends. That 6 pack will handle a lot of people and if there’s decent snowmaking, the mountain has ample terrain to accomodate them. Parking on the other hand is a more limited asset.

I had heard the “we don’t want modern lifts, because it’ll get crowded” before. It turns out that model isn’t really supported by the current marketplace. I am skeptical a mom and pop operated ski area could work there even if mom and pop weren’t under indictment. 



 

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
10 days ago

wfyurasko wrote:

 

I had heard the “we don’t want modern lifts, because it’ll get crowded” before. It turns out that model isn’t really supported by the current marketplace. I am skeptical a mom and pop operated ski area could work there even if mom and pop weren’t under indictment. 
 

That was said by people who didn’t work for Sugar in NC for years.  Of course, some of those people probably know how much a detachable quad would cost.  The old lift was a very slow double with a mid-station.  Sugar upgraded the trails and other lifts on a slow but steady timeline since 2009.  Much like Perfect North has been doing for a few decades from what I can tell.  Sugar is also a family owned mountain.  Now Sugar has more terrain and a base detachable to the summit.  Not a lot of land for parking in Banner Elk either.

What did Timberline have for summer revenue?  I would guess that the North family has plans for that as well.

10 days ago

Wow, and double-wow.  A surprse to see this much, this big, this soon after closing.  The place had deteriorated so much in facilities, operations, and management in the past decade.  Always enjoyed the patrollers, ski school staff, and many other staffers I met, though … not to mention the ski-crazies.

I agree with wfyurasko, JimK, LHC and others about TM becoming a major player in the Mid-Atlantic with these moves.  All now needs to come to fruition and we need Mother Nature meets us at least halfway.  I share johnfmh’s concerns about parking - that parking pit was so often a haphazard hog waller.  Well, if they can fix the snowmaking, lifts, and operations, I expect that the Perfect team can handle parking, too … and maybe make a sheltered place to buy lift tix on those coooold mornings. ❄️. Best to Chip (hey, another skiing Chip in the Valley!) and the TM team - everyone!  

See you on the slopes. ⛷

Woody

10 days ago

marzNC wrote:

What did Timberline have for summer revenue?  I would guess that the North family has plans for that as well.

At one point they had lift served mountain biking.  Many of the trails are still there in some form. Scenic lift rides of course. The bar/restaurant was usually open and I believe they offered horseback riding through one of the local stables.  

 

10 days ago

The Colonel wrote:

 

The locals who wanted a return to the TL they knew 5-10 years ago must be in shock?!!!

 

not really, but most of them have been kicked off this forum for exposing what was really going on and bashing the previous owners, who I guess were paying for advertising (if their checks cleared) so it put the moderator in a pickle probably

the real question is when is snowsmith making good on the bet about the lifts?!  :) 

Scott - DCSki Editor
10 days ago

chaga wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

 

The locals who wanted a return to the TL they knew 5-10 years ago must be in shock?!!!

 

not really, but most of them have been kicked off this forum for exposing what was really going on and bashing the previous owners, who I guess were paying for advertising (if their checks cleared) so it put the moderator in a pickle probably

the real question is when is snowsmith making good on the bet about the lifts?!  :) 

(Sigh.)

Nobody was kicked off this forum.

Timberline wasn’t paying for advertising and I had no interaction with the management of Timberline.

The only administrative actions DCSki has ever taken were clearly documented here, and were the result of blatant Terms of Use violations.  I can’t even repeat the details of a couple of the deleted posts because they were so over the line.

Yes, I grew tired of having to keep an eye on a large volume of posts, many of which were borderline slander and could not be verified (or that I easily verified were NOT true — such as repeated claims over the years that Timberline had been sold when it had not been), putting the poster at risk of being sued.  And the e-mails I was receiving from readers made it clear that the silent majority didn’t like seeing DCSki hijacked by a few users to become nothing more than a “bash Timberline all the time” forum.  I encouraged folks to stick to the facts on DCSki and leave the most salacious and unverifiable rumors for other venues.  It’s not like there weren’t plenty of damning facts coming out.

Some users thought they should be able to post whatever they wanted to (or make multiple accounts so they could post under multiple names) — that they shouldn’t need to adhere to DCSki’s Terms of Use.  When they met resistance they began attacking DCSki, making up stuff about being censored, having posts edited or deleted when they weren’t, etc.  Some users may have chosen to stop posting to DCSki, which is fine, but it’s not because they were kicked off this forum.  So I’d appreciate you not insinuating otherwise.

9 days ago

Scott - I agree with you. Some people were calling the place ‘Tslime’ and saying the management was intentionally vandalizing equipment. Totally inappropriate. Actually, Pugski, where many of the ‘rebel-rousers’ moved to is much more strict. No politics or mean spirited stuff is tolerated on that site. 

Chaga - I was about as wrong as wrong can be. somehow I would like to make good on my bet in person. Perhaps at Tline gathering this winter. Who knows, the COVID 19 recession could kill the project👹…. I’d rather part with a fifty spot.

9 days ago

I am  strongly in favor of the changes going forward at Timberline and am not a huge fan of mom and pop resorts. I suspect Timberline purchased a detachable 6 as opposed to a detachable 4 to gain more capacity and probably because the marginal cost difference was not a financial obstacle for it. I applaud this decision. 

Parking at Timberline, however, really is a finite resource. The resort simply does not have the space to create much more parking and garages are very expensive and generally only built as an amenity for hotel or condo complexes. If business increases (which is inevitable), the resort is going to have to either (a) turn away some day visitors similar to what has happened at Bogus Basin and Crystal Mountain this year or (b) build or lease satellite lots somehere and shuttle people to the resort. 

9 days ago

Scott wrote:

chaga wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

 

The locals who wanted a return to the TL they knew 5-10 years ago must be in shock?!!!

 

not really, but most of them have been kicked off this forum for exposing what was really going on and bashing the previous owners, who I guess were paying for advertising (if their checks cleared) so it put the moderator in a pickle probably

the real question is when is snowsmith making good on the bet about the lifts?!  :) 

(Sigh.)

Nobody was kicked off this forum.

Timberline wasn’t paying for advertising and I had no interaction with the management of Timberline.

The only administrative actions DCSki has ever taken were clearly documented here, and were the result of blatant Terms of Use violations.  I can’t even repeat the details of a couple of the deleted posts because they were so over the line.

Yes, I grew tired of having to keep an eye on a large volume of posts, many of which were borderline slander and could not be verified (or that I easily verified were NOT true — such as repeated claims over the years that Timberline had been sold when it had not been), putting the poster at risk of being sued.  And the e-mails I was receiving from readers made it clear that the silent majority didn’t like seeing DCSki hijacked by a few users to become nothing more than a “bash Timberline all the time” forum.  I encouraged folks to stick to the facts on DCSki and leave the most salacious and unverifiable rumors for other venues.  It’s not like there weren’t plenty of damning facts coming out.

Some users thought they should be able to post whatever they wanted to (or make multiple accounts so they could post under multiple names) — that they shouldn’t need to adhere to DCSki’s Terms of Use.  When they met resistance they began attacking DCSki, making up stuff about being censored, having posts edited or deleted when they weren’t, etc.  Some users may have chosen to stop posting to DCSki, which is fine, but it’s not because they were kicked off this forum.  So I’d appreciate you not insinuating otherwise.

Scott, thanks for the cool site! When I found it couple months ago I mentioned I was looking for people to ski the Beast, I just came up with the name Vermont out of the blue (or should I say white) I never thought about it maybe not being a good idea as this is Mid A site but you or anyone never said anything was wrong with that, now I am thinking I am back to more local skiing next seaso. And I will bring the snow! And maybe meet some nice locals as well.

I see on other sites how some bash others and the ones who have to chime in to back tbeir drinking buddies, not here you all rock!

peace, stay safe Vt.

9 days ago

Parking will definitely be an issue if they start to draw good crowds, the only option to me seems to be satellite parking down the road somewhere as the base area is all built up with houses.    When we went to Big Sky a few weeks ago they had a shuttle system that ran continuously that seemed to work very well of pickup trucks and tractors towing flatbed trailers with a series of benches on them that could hold 20-30 people easily.   It would make a few stops and people could jump on and off quickly while holding their skis/boards (vs a shuttle bus where you have to take the time to have everyone put their skis/boards in the back and go through a single door.   This was a very efficient and easy to use shuttle that would work very well for Timberline if the could find some land down Timberline road to put in additional parking.

9 days ago

My guess is that there are many options for remote parking in and near Davis. Many customers will 

be driving through Davis anyway.  I am ready to buy my season’s pass. 

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
9 days ago

The stand-only trailer at Elk seems to work fine to get people from the parking lot to the base.  There is also a small parking lot that can be used by season passholders who are happy booting up in the car.  More on the same scale as Tline, as opposed to what is done at a large destination resort like Big Sky.

8 days ago
Yeah, I was thinking that something like they have at Elk could work at TL.
8 days ago

Parking at Timberline Mountain can and will be an issue.  There are three parking areas at timberline and the rest is private.  I’m a homeowner at the closest area and we do enforce parking meaning we will tow if the cars are not properly tagged and parked.  I think there are solutions but it needs to be closely cordinated with local HOAs. This is a work in progress.  

  

8 days ago

Parking at Timberline Mountain can and will be an issue.  There are three parking areas at timberline and the rest is private.  I’m a homeowner at the closest area and we do enforce parking meaning we will tow if the cars are not properly tagged and parked.  I think there are solutions but it needs to be closely cordinated with local HOAs. This is a work in progress.  

  

8 days ago

Parking at Timberline Mountain can and will be an issue.  There are three parking areas at timberline and the rest is private.  I’m a homeowner at the closest area and we do enforce parking meaning we will tow if the cars are not properly tagged and parked.  I think there are solutions but it needs to be closely cordinated with local HOAs. This is a work in progress.  

  

5 days ago

Does anyone have any intel on season pass/ski the valley ticket deals? How much/When they will announce? I know most other local places offer around 300$ for early buyers. I also checked and it is 300$ at Perfect North as well. They also offer a “Ski once a week” Deal for less than that. 

 

Would also be awesome to see if they expand trails in the future. I have never skied there but based off what I can tell from reviews, for a 3 hour drive it has the best advanced terrain/snow combo in the area. 

4 days ago

Hopefully Perfect North didn’t bite off more than it can chew.

Vail just axed all planned new ifts and capital spending.

If the virus turns out to be seasonal, like the flu, there would be another awful winter next winter.

 

4 days ago

I sure hope that’s not the case but hopefully by the winter we will have a much better idea of how the virus works and how to treat it. Stay safe out there people!

 

As far as Vail essentially freezing spending I think you also need to consider how different their situation is. They had to shorten their ski season by atleast a month at many of their biggest locations such as Vail, Breck, and Whistler. They had to issue refunds for people who planned trips they could not attend, and lost a ton of expected revenue (lost out big on Spring Break season). They also have southern hemisphere ski resorts that will need to close for most likely their entire season. 

Where as Perfect North may have closed a week early so the year was normal for them. Obviously, I have no idea what their financials look like and they could have money tied up in different investment portfolios that are not doing well. All we can do is hope for the best but as of now I have a positive outlook on next season!

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