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#70656 - 03/07/13 10:33 PM Skiers making C turns on powder?
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As a skier and boarder, I still dont really know how to explain this. But, on Weds during our recent powder event (and it was powder!) , I was kind of shocked at the amount of people that were making C turns on powder of all things. I can see during packed granular or icy conditions, taking a much more careful approach down North face etc, however doing that on Powder? They are KILLING the powder. By 9:45, the untracked powder was almost completely gone, and 90% of the people were making sharp slow turns down black diamond slopes?

This is so frustrating to see them destroy the powder like this. I was amazed at how quickly the entire mountain was packed out by straight skiers wearing steelers jackets.

Maybe there should be a powder license like a drivers license. It's a responsibility, .....

.......and if you are caught side slipping down the middle of north face , destroying a 6' wide swath of powder from top to bottom because YOU SUCK, then you should have your license revoked and NEVER be allowed to dri..er SKI again!

With that said - Wed was a great day to be at 7Springs. Even with the straight ski gapers taking over for the day..

It wasnt until about 11:30 that things really changed and the snow was getting pretty damn solid. That and the slopes resembled something like stormy seas or, an inlet. Not fun on a board, and with the snow being heavy like that, not fun on skis either.

I found some areas , such as the tree line between the north face lift and gunnar, where the snow drifted about 2' deep. That was VERY nice to drop into and scream through. I went through this 3 times and followed my line almost the same and got almost the same amount of powder fling as the previous run. Pretty good for a more dense powder.

Alas, by noon it was no longer powder. Mush potatoes. I'll bet the next day (today) was pretty good after groomed.

Lets hope our little base holds us until April or, we get a freak cold snap and a nice 12" dumping to take us through the looooooooong, HOTTTTTTTTTTT, boring summer months. If we snow gods would curb the sudden warm up (no 75 degree and sunny days like last year please!), and we could get ONE more nice snowfall, I'd retract all my negative thoughts about the weather this year.

Here's looking forward to next years ski swap!

EDIT - I just thought of this. If you find yourself reading this post, then one day out and doing the above to save your butt, dont listen to me. Save your butt! Best to be safe than to push your comfort levels, especially near trees and other large immoveable objects. Stay safe!!!!


Edited by Sincraft (03/07/13 10:39 PM)

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#70658 - 03/08/13 12:41 AM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: Sincraft]
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I think that what you are calling 'C' turns, I would call J turns.

The upright arm of the J is the fall line. A J turn therefore is one that leaves the fall line. By contrast, a C turn both enters and exits the fall line.

Beyond that *shrug* who cares? It's a resource, they paid for it, they can do what they like within safety limits.

Frankly, I'm more bothered by drivers spraying good bubbly over themselves and the crowd, blast it all there are only so many acres of grapes in Champagne. Grrr.
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#70661 - 03/08/13 07:28 AM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: djop]
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Z turns?
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#70689 - 03/09/13 03:50 PM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: Sincraft]
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Lowercase "g" turns?

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#70693 - 03/09/13 10:00 PM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: djop]
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Originally Posted By: djop
I think that what you are calling 'C' turns, I would call J turns.

The upright arm of the J is the fall line. A J turn therefore is one that leaves the fall line. By contrast, a C turn both enters and exits the fall line.

Beyond that *shrug* who cares? It's a resource, they paid for it, they can do what they like within safety limits.

Frankly, I'm more bothered by drivers spraying good bubbly over themselves and the crowd, blast it all there are only so many acres of grapes in Champagne. Grrr.


Car racing, baseball and skiers on black diamond slopes making C and reverse C turns - all painful to watch


Edited by Sincraft (03/09/13 10:01 PM)

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#70734 - 03/11/13 04:59 PM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: Sincraft]
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Originally Posted By: Sincraft

Car racing, baseball and skiers on black diamond slopes making C and reverse C turns - all painful to watch


Damm! I can only cause 2/3rds pain. laugh laugh laugh

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#70736 - 03/11/13 05:20 PM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: GGNagy]
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Originally Posted By: GGNagy
Originally Posted By: Sincraft

Car racing, baseball and skiers on black diamond slopes making C and reverse C turns - all painful to watch


Damm! I can only cause 2/3rds pain. laugh laugh laugh



Looking at the picture, pain is about to be inflicted on you in 5 seconds...
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#70738 - 03/11/13 05:44 PM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: JohnL]
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I've been following this topic and remain focused. What exactly is a "C" turn? And do 2 "c" turns equal a "s" turn?
The Colonel

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#70739 - 03/11/13 06:06 PM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: Sincraft]
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Thanks i'm wondering the same thing
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#70745 - 03/11/13 09:53 PM Re: Skiers making C turns on powder? [Re: Sincraft]
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I have been confused by this thread from the beginning. Here is the way powder is supposed to be conserved for one's fellow powder skiers.

http://www.gravityfed.com/articles/farmer-dave.html

This guy is a legend. And, BTW, those are C turns.

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