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#67299 - 06/22/12 12:06 PM
Re: Hidden Valley seems to be going backwards??
[Re: hvowner]
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New to these forums but have to say I differ with this opinion.
I think the resort appear to be trying to improve, and making progress. Everything can always be better, but relative to years of steady and obvious decline before the current owners got involved, and the dismal economic climate since, I think they are doing pretty well.
For example, I felt the Clock Tower was much improved this year. What I am really optimistic about is they are trying. Seems to me these can be circular chicken and egg kinds of things.....you need a good product to get customers.....and you need customers to pay for improvements......which gets you more customers.
In a perfect world we'd want a big capital investment to "build it and they will come", but if I were the owners of a ski resort in Western PA, in this economic enviornment, I think I'd be pretty cautious about my spending!
So with that perspective, if one feels like they are trying, and its better than it was, then I feel like I can be both happy and optimistic!
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#67302 - 06/25/12 05:32 PM
Re: Hidden Valley Progress Slowed
[Re: pittsburghskiguy]
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They went from investing large sums in some things like that Cadillac maintenance facility, replacing the Bakersville firehouse, a sewer line and pump station of Route 31 to investing very little. They had this rendering on the wall with the future plan for the resort; then that dissappeared. The Outback slope expansion was supposed to happen in 2009; now they don't even cut the grass on the slopes they cleared. They still won't invest in a hotel, the old Outback restuarant building is still a dump and there is one bathroom for both men and women opening to the dining room in Mulligans. They need some new real estate product rather than the continuation of the Summit condos overlooking a sewage lagoon and abandoned clay tennis courts. They eliminated the outdoor swimming pool from the "Inn" so people staying there have to drive to a swimming pool. We all realize that the 2nd home real estate market is in the toilet (although I think it may have moved up to the seat), but I think they have gone to both extremes. Don't get me wrong, I do not miss the previos owners, but they need to invest some money in that Outback building if they want the restuarant to be succesful; they need to get some new real estate product designed for today's market. they need to spend some money on marketing the resort lifestyle outside of the Pittsburgh market (Cleveland, DC, Baltimore,etc.) Because of their investment in snow making, they actually had a pretty good year last winter, from what I have heard, despite the lousy weather. So that investment has paid off. I think some wise and cautious investments at this point are where they need to go until they can sell real estate at a good clip.
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#67559 - 09/07/12 01:02 PM
Re: Hidden Valley Update
[Re: hvowner]
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Anyone hear any news that the Buncher Group is going ahead with plans for the new golf course over in "Paradise Valley"?
Edited by hvre (09/07/12 04:33 PM)
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