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#52126 - 03/10/0901:15 PMRe: snowboarders aren't bad (well, not all of them
[Re: comprex]
jimmy
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Registered: 03/05/04
Posts: 2263
Loc: Wheeling WV
So the shaped ski, admittedly the sidecut dealio was derived from a snowboard, has made carved turns so much easier, the pole plant has been replaced by the pole touch, much skiing does not even require a pole touch so i must ask why do skiers still need poles?????
To poke prone snowbaorders with .
I LIKE Brighton.
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To me this whole argument sums up as this. If you're a prick you're a prick and it doesn't matter what you stand on to do it. I've been taken out by all sorts on the slopes, snowboarders, skiers, kids, my own stupidity etc. it's a fact of life here or anywhere. I could really not care less about what skiers think of boarders or vice versa as long as they keep it to themselves. When it spills over into some sort of overt snobbery or sense of entitlement then that irks me. Places like Alta and Deer Valley only really bother me because of the underlying snide attitude. I'd like to be able to go ride them but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. It does kind of suck that the 2 times I've been in Utah my buddy felt like he had to pass on the opportunity to go to Alta because he'd have to go solo, everyone apart from him in our group snowboards.
Who is preventing you from riding at Alta or Deer Valley? The only person preventing you is yourself.
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#52130 - 03/10/0902:12 PMRe: snowboarders aren't bad (well, not all of them
[Re: GGNagy]
kennedy
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Registered: 12/08/01
Posts: 792
Loc: Fairfax, VA
Originally Posted By: GGNagy
Who is preventing you from riding at Alta or Deer Valley? The only person preventing you is yourself.
But why should I have to change what I choose to slide on to do it?
I skied a little before I learned to snowboard. It was kind of fun and I liked it (hated the boots) but after my first day on a board that sport owned me completely, absolute obsession. I'm sure it's the same for you with skiing and no one should ask or tell you to change that if you want to go to their mountain. They might have an easier time asking you to give up your firstborn. Like I said, I don't care if I never ride Alta or Deer Valley (MRG sounds fun though) it's just that I don't particularly like their attitude. I could poach it, as others have, but that's not really the point.
Bushwacker, your comments made me laugh. I think a lot of people would disagree with you but I liked them.
A. sucks at skiing B. is a gaper C. hates snowboarding because they old and set in there ways. D. all of the above
the other thing thats really funny is I have actually snowboarded into alta before(from hiking in from Baldy). the flat spot by collins makes it really unfun.
like honestly the terrain there sucks for boarding, and is merely ok for skiing.
There is more falline at the sultan of steeps down the road, the issues with snowbird though is scares most people and makes people realize that they do indeed suck at skiing after all. People want to feel good and not actually ski. Its the anti vail. even alta has some easy black runs that arent as steep as the blacks at Blue Knob.
Deer valley could be alot of fun on an alpine board if it wasnt so crowded.
F*ck Alta
its a shame we came of like a bunch of douches lol
Edited by BushwackerinPA (03/10/0903:01 PM)
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I skied a little before I learned to snowboard. It was kind of fun and I liked it (hated the boots) but after my first day on a board that sport owned me completely, absolute obsession. I'm sure it's the same for you with skiing
So far so good.
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and no one should ask or tell you to change that if you want to go to their mountain.
Why not? I don't see anything wrong with it.
By your principle I should be able to light up in a movie theater just because I have a really, really, really strong nic fit.
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They might have an easier time asking you to give up your firstborn.
Ever seen some real nicotine fiends when deprived?
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#52141 - 03/10/0905:08 PMRe: snowboarders aren't bad (well, not all of them
[Re: comprex]
kennedy
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Registered: 12/08/01
Posts: 792
Loc: Fairfax, VA
[quote] Why not? I don't see anything wrong with it. [quote]
Of course not, you ski therefore it never applies to you. That said if you want to learn to ride I'd be happy to teach you. Depending on your boot size I might have enough gear that you could borrow. I've had people tell me I'm a good instructor. I'll strap on skis again and you can laugh your @ss off at me, I feel like I'd resemble something akin to a donkey on rollerskates. That might be really fun.
[quote]By your principle I should be able to light up in a movie theater just because I have a really, really, really strong nic fit.[quote]
Skiing and snowboarding are different ways of achieving the same thing. The things I love about snowboarding are probably the same things you love about skiing. Scratch the surface and get down to the core of things and we're probably not all that different. With that in mind why is it such a problem for some places?
I kind of get Deer Valley in a weird way. In my mind they are aiming for that exclusive niche and it's not just a skier vs. snowboarding thing. I get that stuck up uber expensive country club vibe from them. You might want a few Rodney Dangerfield type characters in there to liven it up.
If I'm to follow your rationale then snowboarding is no different than smoking i.e. an unpleasant, unhealthy habit generally considered unacceptable in public and linked to cancer and emphysema. That's just mean.;-)
If I'm to follow your rationale then snowboarding is no different than smoking i.e. an unpleasant, unhealthy habit generally considered unacceptable in public and linked to cancer and emphysema. That's just mean.;-)
Whoa! Missed the rationale turn at a high rate of speed and went into the orange safety netting.
Passing rules about you snowboarding without having to provide specific negative consequence justification to you
is similar to
Passing rules about you smoking without having to provide specific negative consequence justification to you
is similar to
Passing rules about you drinking in public without having to provide specific negative consequence justification to you
is similar to
Passing rules about you using motorized ATVs on cycling or hiking trails without having to provide specific negative consequence justification to you.
Point being that any rule, once justified to the society that establishes it (which may be a society of one), need not be justified to someone outside that society unless it violates some greater rule applying to both.
In the above case, we can take society=management. Unless you can show that banning snowboarding at a particular resort is illegal, they don't need to justify a ban to you, so arguing justification is pointless.
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I just can't wait till I see 8 to 10 Boarders out of 10 doing it right instead of the 8 out of 10 doing it wrong because i'm tired of waiting for the rest to get better...How long will it take?....terrain parks & Halfpipes seem to be the logical place for them...Skiers rock the slopes..Boarders...are still rookies!
Even the ones doing it right seem ....uncomfortable...ask your self before you show me some hate...are you really any good?...or do you think you are....
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Not exactly. A traversing skier can see uphill without turning his or her head. A heelside traversing snowboarder cannot see uphill without turning the head.
A straightlining skier can see to his left and right without turning his or her head. A straightlining snowboarder cannot see to heelside without turning the head.
Those are -not- the same blind spots.
They are quite similar, one can't see what's behind them, nor can they see what's 90 degrees to them without turning their head. If you apply that logic rationally:
A traversing skiier can only see straight across the slope, they can't see uphill with turning their head, or downhill for that matter as well. A straightlining skier can only see straight down the fallline, period...
Everyone must bend their heads to really get a full view of what's around them on the mountain, whether they choose to or not, is simply a matter of how conscious they are and aware of their surroundings.
If it even matters, if you're in my blind spot to my heel/backside, than I'm already past you and further down the hill picking the nice next spot to lay down a nice heel to toe carved edge turn, or you're about to slam into the back of me straightlining down the mountain since you never learned how to carve turns...
I can tell that debating this is absolutely pointless, since I keep forgetting that all skiiers were born out of the womb experts in all things snow related. Thankfully, I'll never have to worry about busting my knee for the rest of my life... Now if we can just get all you arrogant republican skiiers to stop driving suv's and admit global warming exists...
#52183 - 03/11/0908:17 AMRe: snowboarders aren't bad (well, not all of them
[Re: ks5z]
kennedy
Senior Member
Registered: 12/08/01
Posts: 792
Loc: Fairfax, VA
Originally Posted By: ks5z
I can tell that debating this is absolutely pointless, since I keep forgetting that all skiiers were born out of the womb experts in all things snow related. Thankfully, I'll never have to worry about busting my knee for the rest of my life... Now if we can just get all you arrogant republican skiiers to stop driving suv's and admit global warming exists...
Dammit now we've gone from the snowboarder discussion, which to be honest has hit flame war status yet which is nice, to the GW debate. This thread will be yanked soon I can feel it.
Before it gets yanked however, Comprex, you kind of latched onto something I intended as a joke and ran with it, the emoticon on the end didn't translate I guess. But you bring up a valid point, Alta et al don't have to provide justification but I still find it kind of a-holish. There are 3 places left in the US that are skier only. I'd like them to be open to snowboarders but to be honest I don't lose sleep over it. The only thing I have a problem with is a snobbish attitude towards boarders. I'll also say that I find anti skier sentiments among boarders tends to be related to immaturity or inexperience.
You didn't answer my other question though. How about it, want to learn how to ride? It may have to wait until next season though since I'm heading off to Ireland this weekend. I'm hoping there is something left to ride on when I get back but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Fishnski (before you light up our new poster) am I good? I guess so. I'm not park rat good, I don't hit rails and off hits I'm pretty much just a straight air kind of guy. I love ripping cruisers and floating through pow. Lets just say I do better than most and that goes for boarders and skiers.
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