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#28408 - 09/14/06 06:25 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? ***** [Re: RyanC]
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I am new here but have to voice a strong opinion on whether someone who is a home owner in a resort area does have a voice in running the place. Most definitely he does.

1. The $$ these second home owners bring to the community in additional taxes benefits all the locals even though the second home owners are not using the services.

2. The second home residents may not be able to vote but they can surely contribute to political parties and pressure groups even in areas where they don't reside. I do. A group of second home owners can band together and make a large political contribution. Ten thousand dollars to a local politician can call an election.

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#28409 - 09/14/06 08:47 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: jimmy]
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Great & very interesting discussion.

It reminds me of 1998 when the eastern shore of MD was starting to be discovered and 'invaded' by outsiders. One of my customers, a lifelong local, had a bumpersticker that read; "We're not stupid, just rural". Just like in MD, WV, and many other areas around our nation, the 'outsiders' come in with cash and fist with the attitude of trying to 'save the locals from their own stupidity'. Two cultures mixing like oil and water. Another great quote she had was 'there is no life beyond the big ditch', in reference to the Chesapeake Bay.
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#28410 - 09/14/06 09:33 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: Tucker]
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"I agree with the direction you would like to see the DISTRICT move in tourism/environmental/outdoorsy over industrial but I'm sorry this entire conversation is filled with a basic non-understanding of local economy, business status, socioeconomic status, and politics. There is a long history of outside agencies taking advantage of native WASHINGTON,DC people which I won't even go into, but that is also at the root of many of these issues unfortunately...yes it is unfortunate.




**FIXED**

No Taxation with out representation, its on my license plate.

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#28411 - 09/14/06 09:40 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: RyanC]
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Do you know how much money I make? No, you don't. I don't own a business. So if you own a business that does well enough to employ people, surely you are holding your own. What I think is an arrogant, offensive statement on your part is that you seem to feel part-time residents are all wealthy people making six-figure incomes with a net worth in the millions, with money to blow. That is simply not the case. We are hardworking people that support Tucker County also have a vested interest in the community. Like other part-time residents, I eat and shop in Thomas, Davis, etc. and support local businesses and contribute to the community, just as you do. So you live in the area, support the economy, etc.- congratulations, SO DO I!!! Albeit on a part-time basis. With one difference, you can vote and I can't. Just because you live there during the week doesn't make you an "insider" and me an "outsider".




You have a house! Just go register to vote. It doenst matter where you sleep 5 nights a week.

https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/?language=en&action=form&state=WV

" To register in West Virginia you must: be a citizen of the United States; live in West Virginia at the above address; be 18 years old, or to vote in the primary be 17 years old and turning 18 before the general election; not be under conviction, probation, or parole for a felony, treason or election bribery; not have been judged "mentally incompetent" in a court of competent jurisdiction."


Edited by tromano (09/14/06 09:52 PM)

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#28412 - 09/14/06 09:43 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: jimmy]
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Can anyone tell me whats the fastest way to get to Canaan Valley?




Fly.

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#28413 - 09/14/06 10:27 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: fb]
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Great & very interesting discussion.

It reminds me of 1998 when the eastern shore of MD was starting to be discovered and 'invaded' by outsiders. One of my customers, a lifelong local, had a bumpersticker that read; "We're not stupid, just rural". Just like in MD, WV, and many other areas around our nation, the 'outsiders' come in with cash and fist with the attitude of trying to 'save the locals from their own stupidity'. Two cultures mixing like oil and water. Another great quote she had was 'there is no life beyond the big ditch', in reference to the Chesapeake Bay.




As you mention and as RogerZ's demographics point out, this is just the tip of the ice burg. It is part of the continuing and deepening conflict between the haves and have not's in America. And to be sure the have nots are getting more numerous. This scenario will be replayed many more times in communities arround the country.

As it happens the Downtown DC neighborhoods are also a current zone of interest. The outgoing mayor of DC, Anthony Williams has just over seen a huge period of economic growth in the district. Increasing home prices, a blanace city budget, improvement incity services, etc... However form the point of view of many life long DC people this is gentrification pure and simple. The city is becoming more weathy and more wihte and poor blacks are being pushed out. Where are they going?

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#28414 - 09/14/06 11:27 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: tromano]
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The city is becoming more weathy and more wihte and poor blacks are being pushed out. Where are they going?




First ring suburbs. Not unlike European cities. Wealth/poverty in urban areas tends to wave back and forth, unless it gets locked in by stringent zoning regulations. Given flexibility, the poor will be back in the city centers in 30-60 years. It sounds like a while, but that's only 2-3 generations, tops. Not long at all.
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#28415 - 09/15/06 12:06 AM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: tromano]
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"***fixed***"

that's pretty clever... but I didn't say anything about representation or voting
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#28416 - 09/15/06 03:41 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: Roger Z]
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First ring suburbs. Not unlike European cities. Wealth/poverty in urban areas tends to wave back and forth, unless it gets locked in by stringent zoning regulations. Given flexibility, the poor will be back in the city centers in 30-60 years. It sounds like a while, but that's only 2-3 generations, tops. Not long at all.





Hi there... The poor are exiting the cities in masse, but not for the first-ring suburbs, perhaps third ring. Too many zoning laws that are here to stay. In DC, certainly not... Bethesda, Arlington, Chevy Chase and McLain are certainly not becoming the home of the downtrodden. Arlington's average home is now in the '800s. Even Silver Spring is spruced up and gentrified. In Philadelphia's Gladwynne and Bala Cynwood, and New York's Scarsdale and Westbury, the inner suburbs have always been the home of the old money and they're not going away. For the underclass in DC, far-out PG County and the cheap apartments in Manassas are becoming their new homes.

What does that have to do with skiing? Not much, other than pointing out the tremendous disposable income of the DC nuveau rich now buying off entire swaths of West Virginia and Western Maryland.
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#28417 - 09/15/06 05:57 PM Re: Ski Properties: Will the Sky Ever Fall? [Re: lbotta]
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For the underclass in DC, far-out PG County




Lou- PG County borders DC. The countryside there is closer to the DC border than the town of Fairfax is. Criminy, don't you northern Virginians EVER go east of the River?

The general trend nationally is first-ring suburbs. It's the latest navel-gazing, head-scratching mystery among planners. I'd be happy to find some articles for you if you'd like... tomorrow, when I'm recovering from my hangover.
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