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one year ago
Snowing in the Sierras mid June..not just a dusting..real snow!….where you been Camp?….. Still a good bit above average Snow cover left up north…you would think that as hot as its been reported it would have melted by now…oh..its still Snowing!… (Lazy post from phone and bed)
one year ago
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one year ago

Hello fish, I saw a report that there is skiing on six continents at teh moment. I joked “climate change” and received a lecture about the difference between weather and climate change. Seems that the weather forecast is just an educated guess, a probablity, not a guarantee of what is going to happen somewhere between tomorrow and five days from now because it is just to hard to predict precisly. Climate scientists can predict with great certainty what is going to happen years into the future unless a carbon exchange, similar to a stock exchange is funded immediatley. We should let the climate scientists start predicting the weather.

one year ago

The site has been slow, so I’ll take the bait this time. Just numericaly, it’s always easier to predict a global mean than a local event. The weather guys actually do much better with local event prediction than some other fields such as financial markets. A probability is the result of a model of a statistical distribution, an educated guess has no such bounds. Yes I consider this interesting.   

I wonder if anyone has skiied 6 continents in one season.  That would be a very beer-worthy. 

 

 

one year ago

I am guessing that there is no snow skiing in Africa at the moment?

When my one of my big investments in carbon futures, aged scotch whisky or pork bellies comes through I think I’ll take a couple dozen of my closest friends on just such a trip, six continents in one season. 

one year ago

jimmy wrote:

I am guessing that there is no snow skiing in Africa at the moment?

When my one of my big investments in carbon futures, aged scotch whisky or pork bellies comes through I think I’ll take a couple dozen of my closest friends on just such a trip, six continents in one season. 

And if frozen orange juice concentrate makes me my millions you’ll be at the top of my list. We’ll knock them out over a 1 month period. 

one year ago

Gonna be up at Yellowstone and Jackson next week.  Not taking skis this trip though.  Mom’s in charge and she don’t ski.  Fishing gear is packed though.  Picking up an RV in SLC and rolling north for a week.  Maybe I could sneak some ski blades in my checked bag and drop Corbetts on them?  Bet it’s quite gnarly this late in the summer thaw.  Hold my beer!

one year ago
How dare you joke about Climate change Jimmy!….we got it wrong in the 70’s about going back into an ice age but by Golly we got er down now…even Owl Bore said that the math he was using 11 years ago which should have lead to a complete Arctic wipeout and Manhattan under water by now was a little off..but the glitch has been fixed….stay tuned for the next movie…its a comin…Run for the Hills!…or get back into the Paris climate treaty to fix this mess…..
one year ago

For starters, that cooling and ice age theory our science teachers talked about in the late 70s was never a 97% majority opinion.  It wasn’t even a 50% opinion, just speculation with some data to support it.  As for more snow.. and more rain.. and more heavy storms, there is more moisture available in the atmosphere to be dumped on us when it’s not frozen at the poles anymore..  We’ll have more intense rain and more intense snow for the next 50 years, then shifting from more snow to less snow ane even more rain rain I guess. 
Enjoy it while it lasts.  I plan to.  It’s really that simple, but more complex analsys from more qualified experts below..  Not the article itself but more in the references cited in it.

 

Why Global Warming Can Mean Harsher Winter Weather

one year ago

jimmy wrote:

I am guessing that there is no snow skiing in Africa at the moment?

When my one of my big investments in carbon futures, aged scotch whisky or pork bellies comes through I think I’ll take a couple dozen of my closest friends on just such a trip, six continents in one season. 

let’s do a little searching over lunch…. in South Africa both Tiffindell and Afriski resorts are open, so that’s one continent.

 

one year ago
How Important Is “Scientific Consensus” in Climate Research? In the case of global warming, it is nearly worthless. The climate system is so complex that the vast majority of climate scientists — usually experts in variety of specialized fields — assume there are more knowledgeable scientists, and they are just supporting the opinions of their colleagues. And among that small group of most knowledgeable experts, there is a considerable element of groupthink, herd mentality, peer pressure, political pressure, support of certain energy policies, and desire to Save the Earth — whether it needs to be saved or not. (Dr. Roy Spencer…(Nasa employee)
one year ago

fishnski wrote:

How Important Is “Scientific Consensus” in Climate Research? In the case of global warming, it is nearly worthless. The climate system is so complex that the vast majority of climate scientists — usually experts in variety of specialized fields — assume there are more knowledgeable scientists, and they are just supporting the opinions of their colleagues. And among that small group of most knowledgeable experts, there is a considerable element of groupthink, herd mentality, peer pressure, political pressure, support of certain energy policies, and desire to Save the Earth — whether it needs to be saved or not. (Dr. Roy Spencer…(Nasa employee)

And their models are pretty damned spot on, even with the so called “pause” the projections made 30 years ago are right on track, and the increasing rate is accelerating just as predited globally.

one year ago

one year ago


Experts claimed the Arctic Ice would be gone 5 years ago…..Yeh…its felt a little heat but is holding up allright…is the slightly increased temps  Natural or Man made?…how much of it is man made and would you have wanted to have forked over the Gazillion  Bucks Obama wanted to try to fix it?…with most of that money going overseas to other countries who would cheat and steal it?….The US has done a tremendous job cleaning up our enviroment….we are really running clean now….

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

….where you been Camp?….. 

Funny, I just thought I’d check in to see if there’s anything fresh i can argue about today. Been biking and hiking and biking since the locals shut down and seein’ as i’m gettin’ all hot and sweaty, i was hopin’ you’d have some cold wx to throw on me. I’m with ya Fish. These other dudes on here with their science links an shit don’t have nuthin on you. #MakeSummersColdAgain

one year ago

fishnski wrote:
Experts claimed the Arctic Ice would be gone 5 years ago…..Yeh…its felt a little heat but is holding up allright…is the slightly increased temps  Natural or Man made?…how much of it is man made and would you have wanted to have forked over the Gazillion  Bucks Obama wanted to try to fix it?…with most of that money going overseas to other countries who would cheat and steal it?….The US has done a tremendous job cleaning up our enviroment….we are really running clean now….

AHEM -  http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40461726

one year ago

Crush wrote:

 

AHEM -  http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40461726

Dr Degrasse Tyson commented on that this week.  Neil said..”If we can turn Mars in to Earth, why can’t we just turn Earth in to Earth again??”

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

https://youtu.be/bSBNqNriDSg

wote a  lot about my agenda and all I have been doing as much damage as I can as a Turmp  resistor - then cooled it off. Save it for anoher day. 

 

E—

one year ago

YouTube Posts from the partisan brain dead hate mongers. Real scientific.

 

 

one year ago

Latest Searise news…..it was reported the other day that due to Searise a mile of the Cape hatteras Island has gone under water….
Wait a minute….sorry folks…got that wrong….a new Mile long Island has just formed off of Cape point Hatteras?….im Confused…

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

Latest Searise news…..it was reported the other day that due to Searise a mile of the Cape hatteras Island has gone under water….
Wait a minute….sorry folks…got that wrong….a new Mile long Island has just formed off of Cape point Hatteras?….im Confused…

I know right?

And f** those peeps who say it’s just a natural sandbar or shoaling. And just like that Tangier Island story, like the big man said, this Hatteras island will probably be there for hundreds more years.

one year ago
The Island formed..OFF of Cape point..Ocean side…yeh…Sand bars have been drifting here and there forever but I could see the Headlines now if a mile of Island sunk….It sure wouldnt be about natural shifting sandbars!….
one year ago

fishnski wrote:

The Island formed..OFF of Cape point..Ocean side…yeh…Sand bars have been drifting here and there forever but I could see the Headlines now if a mile of Island sunk….It sure wouldnt be about natural shifting sandbars!….

I know its oceanside, i’ve been reading about this too and am familiar with Hatteras and spend a lot of time at the top end of that frame. Another big issue with Hatteras is that the inlets have been shoaling up and one inlet in particular has become challenging and closed at some times to deeper draft boats. How can there be shallower inlets in an era of sea level rise, right? It’s like, how can Tahoe have got so much snow when the earth is heating up. And my stoopid local wx man saying it’s going to be 70% showers today and it’s sunny outside my window. Pfft, scientists. Stephen Hawking, wth does he know?

JimK - DCSki Columnist
one year ago
one year ago

JimK wrote:

Squaw runs lifts on 4th of July for only 4th time in history:

What more proof could there be that warming is a hoax?

This looks great, I skied almost every weekend this season on less that that

one year ago

and at Bachelor

one year ago

Bigger rain and snow (when cold enough) totals were predicted for this period by the climatologists.  I’ll take it as long as the rain snow line remains within 3 hours of my house.

 

Let’s see here, millions of miles of coastline are lost every year at incrasing rates but it’s all OK because there’s ONE pretty neat new sandbar?  Got it.  I feel much better now hahaha.. meanwhile Mar-A-Lago is flooding more and more often hahahaha

one year ago
Show me proof of miles and miles of missing shoreline..then tell me where the searise is coming from and also prove to me/Us that its not just normal erosion or that the land is actually sinking which is happening all over….. BTW…most of the searise for us is supposed to come from a melting Greenland…. Greenland just set the record for coldest July temperature ever reported in the Northern Hemisphere at -33C.
one year ago

It amazes me how a scientific issue has become an ideological issue. The US Geological survey has been monitoring sea level rise for many decades. The actual results indicates that there has been a rise of about 6 inches. I know you won’t check this out since it may pop the ideological bubble you live in, but below is a link to the nearly 200 scientific organizations that endorse the idea that humans have had an effect on our climate. The geeky scientists may not be as charming as the marketing whizzes that the American Petroleum Insitute has hired to put doubts in the minds of partisans like you, but they have dedicated their lives to studying this issue and the scientific results are out there. You can’t deny the facts. You can question what we should do about it, yes absolutely. Anybody who thinks we can burn hundreds of millions of years worth of carbon based fossil fuels in a little over a hundred years with no effects what so ever doesn’t understand physics, thermodynamics and is generally a brain dead, poorly informed, ideologically influenced cabbage head who doesn’t have the common sense that God gave geese. Whethrer or not that the coldest temperature in July ever record just happened or they are skiing in July in Lake Tahoe has absolutely nothing to do with climate change. Weather happens and it will continue to happen.

Fishnski - every year, like the return of the lightning bugs, you have to get your soap box out to profess your Trumpian ideals on a site where skiing is suppose to be subject matter. The fishing is good….why not trade the self righteous soap box for a fishing rod and give us a a break from this contentious subject.

https://www.opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php

 

 

 

one year ago
SS, Your post lost its credibility as soon as you referenced a .gov website.
one year ago

SCWVA wrote:

SS, Your post lost its credibility as soon as you referenced a .gov website.

In all seriousness, how is that  ?  I worked for 9 years in a NIH science lab with a nobel laureate and a winner of the american chemical society gold medal.  We worked in a peer reviewed section that had to prove worth every two years.  I worked my ass off wiith a lot of dedicated people and it was a great experience.  So how did you reach that conlusion?   Enough of this science hate.

one year ago
The C02 effect on climate is not a scientific done deal and is being questioned big time lately…Scientist that have been living high on the GW Hog of course would not question it… C02 has obviously been great for Canaan Valley…its so green and lush right now and I dont think it even got to 70 today…C02 is really good for our planet…ive lived on the water most of my life and dont see any searise…just hear about it…. Btw..whats your carbon footprint Mr Smith?…be Honest…and what amount of money and fossil fuel luxeries are you willing to give up to fix this mess we have been hearing about for over 30 years now?
one year ago

refreshed my learnings and im gathering that we have 400 parts per million of co2 in our atmosphere atm…we have had as much and probably more than the 4400ppm estimated during the last ice age….also from what I gather after 20 to 30ppm co2 is a nothing burger…its allready nearly maxed out in its warming at that point…..so…enjoy the green green grass of home!…..also..
remember SS..everytime you explode so angrilly in response to anything you are standing on your own soapbox…but I still enjoy your posts here  and on any thread so keep em coming!

PS….double blanket morning here in the land of Canaan….53 this morn….

one year ago

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1603422099689274/

one year ago

SCWVA wrote:

SS, Your post lost its credibility as soon as you referenced a .gov website.

 

If you don’t trust most media outlets, you don’t trust the overwhelming majority of the scientific community, you don’t trust government funded research, expecially NASA who put men on the moon in the 60s and just landed a space ship on a freakin comet millions of miles from here travening at an amazing rate of speed… If you can’t trust those sources, it’s not sources you have  problem believing, it’s FACTS which don’t align with what you’d prefer to believe that you have a problem accepting.

one year ago

Crigldart - BINGO! These folks don’t “believe” so they shoot the messenger. In this case, scientists who have spent their life researching this subject. I would like to know how these scientist will benefit from their research? As opposed to the oil and coal lobby who repeat billions in profits. But we trust them? That said, we are completely dependent on these sources of energy and will be until we suck it all out of the ground or it get’s too scarce and too expensive for most regular folks to be able to afford it. At that point, all the dummies won’t have a choice. I hope this situation comes after I am 6 feet under. Quite frankly, I think we all hope these climate predictions are wrong. Debate is fine But denigratinging scientists because you don’t ‘believe’ I think is incomprehensible.

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

The C02 effect on climate is… Btw..whats your carbon footprint Mr Smith?…be Honest…and what amount of money and fossil fuel luxeries are you willing to give up to fix this mess we have been hearing about for over 30 years now?

I agree with you. I live out in the country so I am totally dependent on my internal combustion automobile. Now fuel usage was one of my main criteria when we purchased our cars. However, I would say my foot print is perhaps average. I do heat my house with wood, and a heat pump. I don’t drive a full size pick up or SUV.  But I am a contributor to the problem. And that’s why I always say you can debate the solution to this problem. It could be very costly and impactful. Based on The world’s oil reserves and how fast we’re using them, I think at some point we’ll be forced into alternative solutions. Thus the problem will tend to solve itself, at least partially. I am an engineer, energy is critical to every problem we analyze and solve. Energy cannot be invented, only transferred to one form to another. If we can get energy economically from a source that does not pollute or impact the atmosphere, how can that be a bad thing? But to pretend that somehow human activity has no effect on our climate is just not factual. That’s the issue that drives me crazy. And my posts are supposed to sarcastic, not angry. 😉

one year ago

Im not seriously concerned and think its cool that you burn wood SS but just for kicks and giggles here is a response….

First off …burning wood that lives off of C02 is not good for the inviro….personaly ive planted hundreds of trees…also …
chemicals are produced when wood is burnt, including one of the most potent greenhouse gases, nitrogen dioxide; although the amounts may be small (200 g of CO2 equivalent per kg of wood burnt), the gas is 300 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and lasts 120 years in the atmos….

Scott - DCSki Editor
one year ago

Do we have to go through this *every* *single* *year*?  Since this topic inevitably leads to a battle, please keep the climate change discussions and other politicized topics off of DCSki.  This is not the place for that.

one year ago

I think everybody has been very good this time around…(wellll..one of us might of got a little grumpy..) great thread for a slow summer….but im only going to post real time factual unbiased  state of the climate reports from now on…starting this fall….im out till then…enjoy…and thx for some good posts uall…been fun!

one year ago

Oh fish, this was fun, skiing on the fourth of july, brain dead cabbage heads, like a dead head only smells funny.

Anyways speaking of dead cabbage heads, how do you think they got dead?

Skiing without a helment, that’s how. 

one year ago

This

“Fishnski - every year, like the return of the lightning bugs, ……………………….”

was pretty funny too; maybe more like buzzards return to Hinkley

 

one year ago

Cabbage head was what my Polish grandmother called someone who she believed had no common sense only she used the Polish version - capusciana glowa. 

However, the important news is that Mr. Fishnski has admitted that their is a cause for climate change….my wood stove. Along with poisoned dying children and the cause of frog deformities, it seems my wood stove is pure evil. And I thought I was just saving a few bucks on my heating bill! 

one year ago

Capa tosta, same thing in Italian. So you are using a two stroke stihl farmboss to clear cut the mid-Atlantic rain forest just to keep your house warm?? 

Shame

one year ago

Ah, Lightning Bug, fireflys, they are actually beatles not flys but never the less, the ones from California are not very bright, in fact they don’t light up at all. 

one year ago

I had to delete mypost on Fireflies…too offensive to firefly lovers….

one year ago

Didn’t see a single June bug this year.  Five years ago they completely covered the pool a couple nights.  As for individual footprint..  Today I finally got around to addingn insulation, 24” in the attic of our 60 something year old house.  There was ZERO up there before today.  Put in new windows about 10 years ago.  Attic insulation ought to make a HUGE dent on our cooling and heating energy expenses and footprint.

one year ago

Nice zero to 24 in an afternoon. 

What happened to your Beatles?

one year ago

jimmy wrote:

Nice zero to 24 in an afternoon. 

What happened to your Beatles?

Speaking of Beatles… Put some of these out a few days ago. Already full of a bunch ornery Japanese Beatles at this point. 

“Use of the Japanese beetle’s natural sex attractant for trapping is an ideal method to aid in the control of the insect through its own natural biology.”   

It’s basically a huge bag of smut in my back yard. Hope the cops don’t fine it…

one year ago

Scott wrote:

Do we have to go through this *every* *single* *year*?  Since this topic inevitably leads to a battle, please keep the climate change discussions and other politicized topics off of DCSki.  This is not the place for that.

ya man! the voice of reason- oh heh it is your site geez. I think you should kick us *all* off . I can’t, in restospect, believe how we have all (except you my dear moderator) have become *** **** and indeed we have. No more for me.

I’m out - we don’t want this anymore - goodbye and thanks for all the fish.

 

M and E

one year ago

Crush,

Don’t go!!!

By the way, did you move from Park City?

MorganB

aka The Colonel

Scott - DCSki Editor
one year ago

What an unbelievably rude reply.  It is my site — I’m the one pouring my time and money into it, and it’s called DCSki, not DC-Let’s-Endlessly-Debate-About-Climate-Change-Thus-Driving-Away-People-Who-Come-Here-To-Escape-Politics-And-Talk-About-Skiing.com.

But I’m the bad guy.  Thank you for that nice feedback, and for using language fitting for the family audience of DCSki (language that I edited to change to *’s.). There are children that read this site, Crush.

Crush wrote:

Scott wrote:

Do we have to go through this *every* *single* *year*?  Since this topic inevitably leads to a battle, please keep the climate change discussions and other politicized topics off of DCSki.  This is not the place for that.

ya man! the voice of reason- oh heh it is your site geez. I think you should kick us *all* off . I can’t, in restospect, believe how we have all (except you my dear moderator) have become *** **** and indeed we have. No more for me.

I’m out - we don’t want this anymore - goodbye and thanks for all the fish.

 

M and E

 

one year ago

Scott wrote:

What an unbelievably rude reply.  It is my site — I’m the one pouring my time and money into it, and it’s called DCSki, not DC-Let’s-Endlessly-Debate-About-Climate-Change-Thus-Driving-Away-People-Who-Come-Here-To-Escape-Politics-And-Talk-About-Skiing.com.

But I’m the bad guy.  Thank you for that nice feedback, and for using language fitting for the family audience of DCSki (language that I edited to change to *’s.). There are children that read this site, Crush.

Oy - i am not sure why my post to you got spun 180 degrees - you are the *hero* here and we are the dumb a$$e$ and me included. Mea maxima cupla. Scott you were and  never will be a bad guy - only a good guy to me.  i confess my rather cryptic and cynical way of writing often backfires but when i say ” … voice of reason …” i truly mean it. iI’ll put it down to too much reading of Shaw and  Emil Cioran and of course Douglas Adams with booze as a catylist. You are pretty sharp in a literary fashion i am suprised that you never caught my self deprication where i never use a capial “I” when i write about myself . From Major Barbara …  “He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career.”

one year ago
Crush the politician!…Sobers up an fires of a fast one!… I just dont understand why its such a big deal that a thread that probably interests a ton of folks has to be silenced by a small minority that has other threads to read..they are not forced to read it…they can turn the channel…This is DCSKI…not Hodunk Bible belt Stepford Wivesville….This site could be a huge draw for everything DC to go along with the Nordic Scene….I think its time for Dcski to grow up and get real…but u r right Bossman Scott..ur site that you have busted your butt on and that should and is respected and appreciated but please dont be too hard on some of us that bend the rules at times…we b only human….and thats what humans do..otherwise we would all be stuck in a rut…dont like that..we must evolve…
one year ago
The record low on this date for Mt Washington,Nh summit is 33 back in 1953..its 35 right now at 2:08pm….Snow tonite?…
one year ago

Record high today for St. Louis- 108 degrees. Previous record was 107 set in 1901. No snow for St. Louie today.

one year ago

Wow…that is Sizzling…dont want to know what the heat index was!….St Louie BBQ without the charcoal…,,,
. One interesting tidbit I just found out was that in the last 30 days we have had 638 record highs in the US but 1124 record low highs…
Also I read a tweet where a weatherman from New England was worried that the cool pattern they are in might fizzle out by Dec when the snow lovers need it…hope not but that just goes to show how important timing is for a good or bad month for snow n cold  and that goes for the season as well…

one year ago

Well it sure fizzled out last winter when I visited. 60’s and rain followed by a brief snow shower then freezing temperatures. The worst ‘velcro’ snow I have ever skied on. Then it all froze. They groomed it but as it got skied off, all of the boiler plate below created by the rainy freeze/thaw weather of last winter was exposed. I have second thoughts about returning to New England unless it is spur of the moment to coincide with some decent winter weather. After 3 lousy winters, we’re due for a decent winter here in the East. And as the fat lady once said, “Timing is everything”.

one year ago

snowsmith wrote:

Well it sure fizzled out last winter when I visited. 60’s and rain followed by a brief snow shower then freezing temperatures. The worst ‘velcro’ snow I have ever skied on. Then it all froze. They groomed it but as it got skied off, all of the boiler plate below created by the rainy freeze/thaw weather of last winter was exposed. I have second thoughts about returning to New England unless it is spur of the moment to coincide with some decent winter weather. After 3 lousy winters, we’re due for a decent winter here in the East. And as the fat lady once said, “Timing is everything”.

We got lucky last season with a 3 day trip to Gore we got there just before Winter Storm Stella, STELLAAAAAA!!

one year ago

Warmer oceans facilitate bigger precipitation events, both rain and snow.  Folks well above the snow lines are enjoying the benefits as long as they remain above the rain/slow lines..  Folks below it are.. below it 

one year ago

my beach surf temp is 82….it was 80 and 79 1 to 2 weeks ago….its been hot here but the ocean is right at the average temp for this time of year….(source NWS ),,,ave is 82 but goes up to 83 beginning of Aug….4 days away…air temp 86..surf temp 82…SWEET!

one year ago

jimmy wrote:

snowsmith wrote:

Well it sure fizzled out last winter when I visited. 60’s and rain followed by a brief snow shower then freezing temperatures. The worst ‘velcro’ snow I have ever skied on. Then it all froze. They groomed it but as it got skied off, all of the boiler plate below created by the rainy freeze/thaw weather of last winter was exposed. I have second thoughts about returning to New England unless it is spur of the moment to coincide with some decent winter weather. After 3 lousy winters, we’re due for a decent winter here in the East. And as the fat lady once said, “Timing is everything”.

We got lucky last season with a 3 day trip to Gore we got there just before Winter Storm Stella, STELLAAAAAA!!

wow….whiteout!….(am I the only one that cant see the pic?)

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

my beach surf temp is 82….it was 80 and 79 1 to 2 weeks ago….its been hot here but the ocean is right at the average temp for this time of year….(source NWS ),,,ave is 82 but goes up to 83 beginning of Aug….4 days away…air temp 86..surf temp 82…SWEET!

Average ocean temps are a degree higher than they were a few decades ago right?  I remember surfing in a wetsuit until mid June off Long Island in the early 1980s.  Down here in NC I don’t usually need one after May.  One degree makes a difference surfing but not as much as it makes when a hurricane is forming or fizzling out.

one year ago

Anytime you get any offshore winds in Nags Head the water temps can drop by as much as 10-15 degrees in one day due to upwelling.  It can go from 75 to 60 and you are gonna need a wetsuit at 60.    

one year ago

snapdragon wrote:

Anytime you get any offshore winds in Nags Head the water temps can drop by as much as 10-15 degrees in one day due to upwelling.  It can go from 75 to 60 and you are gonna need a wetsuit at 60.    

I never made it that far north since moving to NC.  Kure has been my favorite place to bring a board.  Wrightsville’s OK in the off season, but June-August I avoid that place.

 

I’d love to rent a house in Corolla for a few days sometime.  Haven’t surfed on almost a decade, but will try it again now that the kids are old enough and strong enough swimmers that I no longer have to supervise their every minute out there..  Couple years ago I had to go get my son out of a rip current that was taking him out on his boogie board.  Just handed some stranger on the beach my phone and huffed it out there and paddled both of us back diagonally.  Guy with my phone said “nice save” when he handed me my phone back.

one year ago

snapdragon wrote:

Anytime you get any offshore winds in Nags Head the water temps can drop by as much as 10-15 degrees in one day due to upwelling.  It can go from 75 to 60 and you are gonna need a wetsuit at 60.    

Ive seen that many times over the years up there but down here in the SE NC Banks we dont get that `because of the prevaling summer winds that are SW usually which works for a NE shoreline like Nagshead….

you would think “from what we “know” that the Artic temps would be way above ave but they have been running below ave since early summer…lets hope it keeps up…im sure uall are with me on that!….`..BTW…winter temps can have huge variables..(normal)

one year ago

one year ago

yeh…start the obs in 1992 and yes,,,we are flaming out!

one year ago

^^^US average highs only?  Cherry pick much??

And looking at Global Averages pre and post adjustment for mercury to digital..

 


 

Link to source

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/feb/08/no-climate-conspiracy-noaa-temperature-adjustments-bring-data-closer-to-pristine

one year ago

That graph has that suspicious hockey stick look to it that has been debunked…Why are the US temps not showing the extremes in world temps?
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the above was put out by J Hansen who is the godfather and leader of the GW ‘ers…
something just doesnt smell right with the world temps…first off there are huge areas that have no monitoring stations…while the US has a great amount of decent info…although even our temps have been fuzzied up by heat islands and asphalt ect….

.but if it were correct and my ave high temps were correct I wonder what that means?….bet there could be all kinds of theories as to why the highs are trending down but the mean temps are rising.( I posted earlier where we have had more than twice as many record low highs this summer than record highs)..could be some sort of lag effect and the warming has peaked?…dunno..im just an optimist and maybe my bullheadness is Clouding up my thinking…hmmmmm…clouds….

Anyhoot…back to reality….tis the time of the year to watch the tropics!….I had fun with Mathew last year down here in the Cape Fear…


one year ago

Doctor Hansen testimony to Congress:

Hansen was invited to testify before the United States Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources on June 23, 1988.[72] Hansen testified that “Global warming has reached a level such that we can ascribe with a high degree of confidence a cause and effect relationship between the greenhouse effect and observed warming…It is already happening now”[51] and “The greenhouse effect has been detected and it is changing our climate now…We already reached the point where the greenhouse effect is important.”[73] Hansen said that NASA was 99% confident that the warming was caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and not a random fluctuation.[51][

one year ago
The price of Natural Gas has tanked this year due to cool temps…. Nat gas falls another 5% as new forecasts say below normal temps could persist
one year ago
I just watched a Nat Geo special about an ice breaker that just traversed the NW passage thru the Southern Arctic in record time which proves Global Warming……first of all a man named R Amendsen did the trip in a wooden boat back in 1903 which NASA says was the 10th coldest winter….. This Ice breaker had state of the Art equipment and a reinforced steel bow….make your own judgement…
one year ago

Geeze….the Great weather news and state of the climate are crisscrossing each other and dodo brain me keeps posting on wrong thread…they both have the same color!!..
long story short…State of the Climate is doing well……

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

Geeze….the Great weather news and state of the climate are crisscrossing each other and dodo brain me keeps posting on wrong thread…they both have the same color!!..
long story short…State of the Climate is doing well……

Based on 1981-2010 data.. with a third of that being the so called “pause”?  Mmkay hahahaha!  We’ve rebounded from that “pause” and are back in line with the models including the hockey stick.  Let’s see that model rerun to include data from 1981 through 2016 mmmkay??

one year ago

This is a fact based climate thread without a need for argument..since its an innocent factual state of the present and future fcasts… we do not discuss the past here.(unless its a great weather and ski story)..if you feel the need to discuss GW then I would suggest meeting some buddies at the latest Al Gore movie…..Mmkay?…

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

This is a fact based climate thread without a need for argument..since its an innocent factual state of the present and future fcasts… we do not discuss the past here.(unless its a great weather and ski story)..if you feel the need to discuss GW then I would suggest meeting some buddies at the latest Al Gore movie…..Mmkay?…

Mkkay then don’t add stuff like this,,,

“long story short…State of the Climate is doing well……”  Especially from cherry picked HISTORICAL, decades old data again..

one year ago

Im just messin with ya CDart..just having fun…I like to have a good argument but im just trying to keep the peace here so Scott doesnt get the sweats….
Plus you are looking at my image wrong….its a fcast map for August 15th showing the 2m temp anomoly in North America which shows cooler than normal temps across a huge area including the Arctic where we are at a critical melt stage….im always rooting the Arctic on arn’t you?…anyhoot I stand by my statement that the State of the Climate is fine for now and at least for the next week or so…in north America.

PS..there are a couple of storms that are going to dump a ton of Snow on the Arctic ice that is left up there during the next 10 days and the Arctic temp at and above 80 north just hit the freezing level again after a long summer which is a little early so im keeping hope alive that we can see a good rebound in the ice extent this Sept..it is the cold breeding ground for us down here!
 

one year ago


Not too shabby ……… We have just dealt with Harvey and now we have Irma coming in strong Atm…with Jose maybe on her heels..lets hope they veer out to sea…at least not hit the Gulf coast! Better signs for a colder Snowier winter for us here in the East…keep ur Skiis Crossed!!!
 

one year ago

Crazy mean looking Hurricane Irma out there…5 or 10 mph more sustained winds and she could equal the record set by Allen in 1980 ?…!!…feeding on that warm water…saw a dive report from a reef out in the keys and they reported 87….generally its been going over mid 80’s water….it looks like it will at least match the record for an Atlantic basin Storm..(recorded of course…huge storms back in the day that were not recorded  but talked about)
Love to be able to get an idea how much heat it is transfering out to space..hope alot for us snowbirds!..

The arctic looks like it has stopped melting 12/14 days before average date…will have to see if that holds but the Arctic temp above 80 north has been running below to average so it looks good…

back to the weather models……
out of the 3 main ones used the most respected Euro just split the uprights between the GFS and the CMC runs scraping Irma along the cuban coast helping to slow it a little but then curving it north across Key west (more warm water ) and then slamming into the Naples,Fl area and then splitting Fl right up the middle and into Georgia….the GFS slams Key Largo area into Miami and then back over the ocean and up the east side till it hits the Savanah Ga area…Cmc takes it just west of main Fl and then hits the panhandle somewhere..maybe appalachia bay, Fl,..(dont mess up all that good seafood..big crabs oysters ect..!)…

there is no cat 6 but this storm is every bit of that right now…hope Cuba can slow it down and then somehow take the best path of least destruction!!!….The state of the climate is Humming!

one year ago
Irma becomes only the fifth Atlantic basin hurricane with a peak wind speed of 160 kt (185mph ) or higher. The others are Allen (1980..190mph), the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935, Gilbert (1988), and Wilma (2005).
one year ago
I like to hate on the Euro model as ive posted before..everyone bows at its alter and has gotten some of these hypster facebook mets in trouble while predicting East Coast Snow storms….The Gfs..American model at 1st had Irma making a bline to the Capefear of Nc then shifted down to Fl but as of yesterday it shifted the track back along the east side of Fl and hitting somewhere between Ga and the Carolinas…the Euro has played Follow the leader and is copying the GFS…The Nat Hurricane center just updated thier path and it shows this new track…we shall see but MAMGA!….Put the bread and milk back west side Fl?
one year ago

Back to back 500 year storms still isn’t necessarily “climate”.  We shall see if it does actually become more than two data points and a trend in the coming years. 

one year ago

I wish I could find it but there was a split screen image posted somewhere that showed an identical shot of three hurricanes that were spinning at the same time in the Same places on different years..it was really cool..thinking the same setup as today was from back in 1989?…dunno..looked hard for it..oh well he is a shot from the other day that would have matched the other image…( but with different hurricane names…was one named igor?…scratching my head..)

one year ago

crgildart wrote:

Back to back 500 year storms still isn’t necessarily “climate”.  We shall see if it does actually become more than two data points and a trend in the coming years. 

Harvey wasn’t a 500 year hurricane it was called a 500 year flood after it stalled over Tx but we dont have 500 years of records …and Irma isn’t a 500 year storm either..could be close to  one but we cant be sure…Irma never did get up to 190mph to match Allen did she?…she topped out at 185 I think….could break all records for dollar amount losses if she splits up Fl the way the latest track looks…
I lived thru the 500 year flood of Floyd and the 500 year blizzard  occuring in the same year and my 1st year living in NC….
Loving the WX we are having now here in NC…Canaan is getting some weather now that would be lake effect in a month…

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

crgildart wrote:

Back to back 500 year storms still isn’t necessarily “climate”.  We shall see if it does actually become more than two data points and a trend in the coming years. 

Harvey wasn’t a 500 year hurricane it was called a 500 year flood after it stalled over Tx but we dont have 500 years of records …and Irma isn’t a 500 year storm either..could be close to  one but we cant be sure…Irma never did get up to 190mph to match Allen did she?…she topped out at 185 I think….could break all records for dollar amount losses if she splits up Fl the way the latest track looks…
I lived thru the 500 year flood of Floyd and the 500 year blizzard  occuring in the same year and my 1st year living in NC….
Loving the WX we are having now here in NC…Canaan is getting some weather now that would be lake effect in a month…

“500 year storm” includes 500 year flood (AKA rain), 500 year hurricane, 500 year hail, etc.. Imra now has the record for longest to maintain Cat 5 in recorded history.  Yes, we can’t be sure back more than 200 years but odds and data support that categorization for both as “500 year storms”.   That blizzard of 2,000 was awesome here.  Wish we could get one every year but would pass on the summer versions.. 

one year ago

Look, we have three guys from the old north state talking climate on dcski.  

About our snowicane in 2000, that was indeed great, lots of neighborhood skiing.  The great thing was it stayed cold for two weeks.  Then we had another big snow forecast but the storm stayed off the coast and all we got was gray skies.  The national media was here expecting another stupid southerners snow disaster that did not happen.  

Harvey was interesting.  The gulf surface stayed above 73F all winter, abnormally warm, and was still 4F above normal which provided the fuel.  Then it got stalled.  And then you have low lying Houston with a gazillion acres of concrete just waiting for runoff.  50” of rain is crazy.  With Fran we only got 10”, in one night, and that was too much.  Floyd dropped 20” on ENC, max 24” on Southport, and you remember what that did.  

 

one year ago
There was a Storm a week or 2 right b4 Floyd which was the setup for Floyd being the 500 year flood…and it was a doozy…I can remember making my rounds thru places like Tarheel and seeing washed up appliances way up above the road on hilltops…. Needing to make a delivery into Wilmington,Nc the Nat Guard told me at a check point that I had to take a left and take a route that would add an hour and a half to my trip so I bolted right and left the dudes blaring their whistles in the dust..had to do it..I knew my territory….only had one short bypass around a bridge and made my delivery on time!…got paid by the job!…. Yeh Pagman…stuck in an Apt complex in N Raleigh for well over a week…sledding was awesome with nice hills there…western NC snow plows finally dug us out..wheww…cigs n beer jus intime!!!
one year ago
Just try to figure out what 200 years of records % wise compared to how long the Earth has been here….thats one of my main issues with folks always jumping the gun to these Conclusions…
one year ago

fishnski wrote:

Just try to figure out what 200 years of records % wise compared to how long the Earth has been here….thats one of my main issues with folks always jumping the gun to these Conclusions…

You know there is a lot of geo physical evidence, of several types, for weather and climate events and trends.  The ice ages were a long time ago but I feel confident that John Muir described them accurately.  

Meanwhile, this image is from a guy I follow on Twitter for interesting graphs using my favorite software - SAS.  Pretty interesting how rare cat 5 has actually been.

 

 

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

Just try to figure out what 200 years of records % wise compared to how long the Earth has been here….thats one of my main issues with folks always jumping the gun to these Conclusions…

Well, ya, but most of the outliers even back to the big bang are explained by super volcanoes and asteroid strikes.  The other more recent ones are regional instead of global..

https://www.facebook.com/UNEP/videos/10155688251685712/?hc_ref=ARRspHZjF6RRqPtgLgUOwpuVUKEW9A0MsIpSJ6gAOlXfmWZNoRKJ8T_Qh0h4yDCtLFs&pnref=story

one year ago
Really sweet seeing the Snow flying out west on the news tonite!….my shoulders are shot from years of sports and hard labor but the healthy surfers are loving life down here in the Carolinas with all the tropical activity lately!…. Im still optimistic for a good winter!!
one year ago

snow over the weekend on the grand Tetons….
Arctic sea ice much above 5 years ago…no Death Spiral…
other than the Carribean and the Keys destroyed by a massive Hurricane and another Cat 5 named Maria on Irmas Heels…speaking of Heels…whats with these woman?…Winter seems to be forming nicely ATM….no worries…..


one year ago

fishnski wrote:

snow over the weekend on the grand Tetons….( 2 weeks ago )
Arctic sea ice much above 5 years ago…no Death Spiral…
other than the Carribean and the Keys destroyed by a massive Hurricane and another Cat 5 named Maria on Irmas Heels…speaking of Heels…whats with these woman?…Winter seems to be forming nicely ATM….no worries…..

Keep the early cold n snow out west..we dont need early cold snaps here in the East because it usually means a later start to winter…east might get the 1st real cold shot 3 weeks into Oct…
Awesome start to snow cover ..lookin good…..all Systems are GO for a decent Winter….Skiis Crossed!

one year ago

As predicted, snow events will be bigger where the air is cool enough to produce snow.. This is because warmer oceans and warmer air above those bodies of water facilitiate greater evaporation and more robust cloud seeding.  Big snow events also facilitate greater ice extent, just not deeper volume as much.  It’s supposed to get better just above the snow/rain lines before those lines retreat farther and farther towards the poles/higher elevations.  I plan to make the most of it but also vote for policies which might possibly slow down the Co2 emissions causing the greenhouse effects.. and bigger snows for now..

one year ago
C02 warming was maxed out years ago..any added C02 will have very little impact…I posted on this earlier….Sea ice volume is at or above where it was 7 years ago and way above the record low of 2012… Now with Greenland ice mass gain at record levels for last year and this year so far it could be or not be the result of your theory CDart…dunno..just know that things are fine now….actually great!
one year ago

fishnski wrote:

Now with Greenland ice mass gain at record levels for last year and this year so far it could be or not be the result of your theory CDart…dunno..just know that things are fine now….actually great!

Great? Isn’t Greenland suffering massive ice loss and permafrost melting to the point of peat wildfires.

one year ago

http://nsidc.org/greenland-today/

one year ago

Bonzski wrote:

fishnski wrote:

Now with Greenland ice mass gain at record levels for last year and this year so far it could be or not be the result of your theory CDart…dunno..just know that things are fine now….actually great!

Great? Isn’t Greenland suffering massive ice loss and permafrost melting to the point of peat wildfires.

I read all that stuff that you read  and it all gets debunked…you are reading stuff that is put out by folks with an agenda…

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/10/greenland-ice-growth-ahead-of-last-years-record-pace/

one year ago

one year ago

I think this could be a great setup for T-Giving in the East..specially the Mid Atlantic…We get these early cold snaps all the time just to be let down year after year so im liking this pattern!….If we miss TGiving then its on for XMas and the rest of winter!
This pattern has it Snowing in Denver today but hopefully it shifts east just in time for Gobble do Gee!…
Great Snow cover up north to generate cold for us..way above snow cover thx to CDarts Theory..Arctic Ice growing like crazy…lets all Fget the coming Doom and Gloom and enjoy the Moment!

one year ago

I’ll be a happy camper if we get two Thanksgiving weekends in a row with NC resorts open :-)

one year ago

its looking like we could be swinging to a cooler east with a pattern change…this cool air now is a teaser and it will warm up for a week and then its looking to get busy and im hoping its going to hold into TGiving but thats too far off right now…after the next cold shot around the 25th ..( first snow flakers?..) there should be another one on its heels around the 28th and then closing out October….We went from Summer to Tgiving weather down here in SE NC overnight!…

one year ago

I’d take two weeks of cold mid November over one week of cold next week.. But, always happy to see snow flakes, ALWAYS!

one year ago

crgildart wrote:

I’d take two weeks of cold mid November over one week of cold next week.. But, always happy to see snow flakes, ALWAYS!

Im with ya Cdart!…we have to have great timing here in the Mid Atlantic….. Cooler shots on schedule..nothing dramatic yet on models that would upset TGiving yet..or Xmas.. 2 good signs for winter…The Ocean in Front of Barrow Ak is freezing over a couple of days b4 the average date from records dating back to 1920 and unoficially since the late 1800’s….and me n the Misses will be migrating south to Fl from NC 2 days earlier as well… These signs are as good as Wooly…worms?….
one year ago

Favorite things about Thanksgivng weekend..

Watching the Cowboys play Thursday.

Getting a tree on Friday and decking the halls

Skiing a couple hours Saturday with leftover turkey sandwiches for lunch break.

Coming home about the time the Christmas lighs in the house pop on Saturday evening.

one year ago

Mr Fish, How is her leg healing?

The Colonel

one year ago
Thx for asking Colonel…im hoping that you are healing yourself…sounds like it per your post on other thread..hope Denis and all the other injured resesrve are getting better!…as far as the Misses..she was progessing Slowwwwlly..but surely but then got a little ahead of herself and slipped on her crutches and tore her Archillis tendon right off her heel..so back to nighty nite and surgery and now back in cast so my Couchups continue..Honey this..Honey that…im beat!…………… Been watching a system coming out of the Gulf and phasing with a cold front as it moves up the East coast Sunday…wow..if this thing could pull in tighter it would be an early season Dumper in the Mid Atlantic high country..close but no cigar…a few flakes to an inch (Gfs model) to maybe 6 inches lets say up in Canaan Hts if you believe the European Model….
one year ago

I’m always OK with a snow day.. but working from home office prevents me from missing work as long as there is internet available.  Kids are growing, girl may be done but boy is definitely still sprouting up.  Got new snow boots for both kids stashed  but won’t give them until Christmas unless we get that dump sooner.  Ski boots I try to shop ahead.  I’ve got the boots they wore end of last season, both went up a mondo around late February, and two mondos up from those in the closet when they need them.  When they stop growing and want to ski more tham 3-6 days a season I’ll look in to good, pro fitted boots for them.  Right now I’m happy and they’re happy with their own pretty good fit, better than resort rentals.. 

 

Let it SNOW!

one year ago
Well..the Nam came in late morn and it showed an 8 inch snow for the WV Alpps…Nam kinda likes to exagerate so I blew it off…then this Aft im seeing the Euro model come in and double their earlier 6 inch snowfall fcast…a foot!…lets see how the Gfs counters this eve…Dolly Sods Camping!….or not…
one year ago

you can see this storm forming south of Cuba as a tropical storm…this image will update so you can follow the progress…Watch the cold front coming down and across and see how it interacts with the tropical system.as it heads north…will it push it off or suck it in and hold it tight as it wrappes up the coast to new England?

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

Looks like its getting wrapped up into one big system…gonna be an interesting aft/eve up in the Alpps!….

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

…slipped on her crutches and tore her Archillis tendon right off her heel..

Uggh, sorry to hear

one year ago

ur a good Man Camp..dont care what cantfishnwishhecouldski says about ya!…..wait a minute..I get it…sorry to hear it wasn’t my archillis?…..Ughhhh…

one year ago

Wierd seeing snow covered grass at the bottom of the lifts at Silvercreek but none at the top of the Shoe on the cams…anyway..its a start to winter!
 

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

Wierd seeing snow covered grass at the bottom of the lifts at Silvercreek but none at the top of the Shoe on the cams…anyway..its a start to winter!
 

Im just going to keep talking to myself…got the Carolina Tampa game on in the background…just migrated south from Carolina to Tampa area so this game kinda sucks for me….hope one of them wins!

The temp at Canaan Hts has been below freezing since 9am but Dave Lesher the obs guy up there has only reported rain or drizzle thats because its warmer higher up…grass freezing up with sleet,snow and freezing rain at the bottom of Silvercreek b4 whitegrass showing up at the top of the shoe shows how this works in a little micro type of way…
I did see a little flurry of Snow on the Canaan Cam around 10am but it shut down quick…just part of the dynamics of a big system trying to get together..
Looking at the weather models upper elevation temps they all seemed to gel with a top to bottom below freezing Skew by 4pm…
its almost 4 so im going to keep on peeping at the Cams…while watching Cam Newton rack up some points on Tampa..come on Tampa!..no…win Carolina!..sooo confused..let it snow..let it snow!!!

one year ago

hellll yehhhh…4pm game on local Tv is Dallas Redskins!….snowing up and down the WV Alpps….everything is all White now!!!

one year ago

Snowing and blowing at Snowshoe. … not even November. It will all melt but it makes you feel good.

one year ago

8.5 inches from the storm recorded at 3715’ Canaan Hts…not too shabby for pre Halloween…

one year ago

Too bad it will all melt very soon. We really don’t want the snow to happen this time of year; we want it to happen in the winter and then stay around. Last winter was one of rain and alot of melting. Hopefully we can reverse the trend of the last 3 sucky years and have a nice winter where it snows and the snow stays around for a while. That would be nice. Unfortunately, NOAA has predicted a warmer than normal winter for our area. I am hoping  they are very wrong.

one year ago

Snowguns on at Snowshoe. Won’t last but it is fun to see for now.

one year ago

snowsmith wrote:

… Unfortunately, NOAA has predicted a warmer than normal winter for our area. I am hoping  they are very wrong.

Pffft. Gov’t scientists. What do they know, right.

one year ago

camp wrote:

snowsmith wrote:

… Unfortunately, NOAA has predicted a warmer than normal winter for our area. I am hoping  they are very wrong.

Pffft. Gov’t scientists. What do they know, right.

Well lets see…they invented the internet, the space program, the atomic bomb, etc….need I go on. Let’s not make scientist the enemy. They are responsible for the quality of our modern life. If anthing, let’s make polititians who question the integrety of scientist, govenment or private, the enemy. Back to the subject……

I am sure that it is very difficult to develop models that predict long term weather. But being a skier, I want a prediction that says the winter will be colder than normal. It would make me feel better. I may look for a woolly bear caterpillar.

one year ago

snowsmith wrote:

I am sure that it is very difficult to develop models that predict long term weather. ..

This is the most hopeful I found. Equal temps and increased Precip. Of the 4 options in this temp:precip matrix, I call it 2nd best. I’d call lower temp, lower precip 1st best (since more precip usually means rain here). Cold and dry is best for snowmaking and any natural lasts longer in the woods

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/seasonal.php?lead=3

one year ago

It may all melt before the day is over but it sure looks nice.

 

one year ago

Especially exciting to see the guns roaring!

one year ago
Dont pay any attention to Winter Fcasts…there are too many variables in Mama Natures trick bag…one week at a time you cold n Snow addicts…im watching a cold shot around the 8th of Nov…and at that point will look out another week..Govt Weather Scientist predicting a warmer winter?…thats funny as heck since they cant even fcast dependably out past 5 days…also keep in mind that predicting a warm winter for populated cities like DC is apples and Oranges to a place like Canaan Valley,Wv…
one year ago

The winter predictions by either Government, and I think we should be thankful we have a NOAA, not beat up on them, or by private entities such as (In)Accuweather are generally reasonably predictive of overall weather trends such as NAO, El Nino, etc. The predictions do not cover specific areas such as DC but rather regions. I like Kentucky Weather Center personnally but this guys is not always right either.  But he considers trends, not forecasts, to provide some kind of estimation on what may happen. He knowns all of the models…the Canadian, the European, the GFS, etc and looks to see what the models are good at predicting. Then watches to see if these models begin to converge on a solution. Unfortunately, mathmatical models is all  we humble humans have to predict natural phenomena. We engineers need to use these tools all of the time to predict how our products will perform. And we are usually right, but not always. Whoops…. we forgot to take this factor into consideration. Lesson learned. Actually, I am quite amazed at how good the predictions are sometime.

Interestingly, I recently watched the PBS show Nature that covered a very interesting weather happening that occured I think in 1239 AD in Indonesia ( they finally nailed it down to this location after looking for many years) This HUGE volcanic eruption that occured at that time sent the Earth into a mini ice age for a while since the volcano spewed so much ash into the atmosphere it blocked enough sunlight to majorly chill the planet. The skiing could have been good if they only had invented skis and chair lifts. But many folks froze to death.  That’s what we need… a good eruption!

one year ago


West Virginia is on the Map!……adding to a very impressive Northern Hemisphere Snow cover….

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

..thats funny as heck since they cant even fcast dependably out past 5 days…also keep in mind that predicting a warm winter for populated cities like DC is apples and Oranges to a place like Canaan Valley,Wv…

Nailing long term averages pretty far out (decades) is quite a bit easier than nailing exact temps and precipt for exact times more than a week away..

one year ago

snowsmith wrote:

Interestingly, I recently watched the PBS show Nature that covered a very interesting weather happening that occured I think in 1239 AD in Indonesia ( they finally nailed it down to this location after looking for many years) This HUGE volcanic eruption that occured at that time sent the Earth into a mini ice age for a while since the volcano spewed so much ash into the atmosphere it blocked enough sunlight to majorly chill the planet. The skiing could have been good if they only had invented skis and chair lifts. But many folks froze to death.  That’s what we need… a good eruption!

oh no…careful what you wish for Mr Smith!!…..
 

Yellowstone volcano WARNING: Catastrophic eruption would destroy ALL life on Earth

YELLOWSTONE’S supervolcano could have enough magma to destroy life on Earth in a matter of decades, researchers have warned………

one year ago

fishnski wrote:

 

 

Yellowstone volcano WARNING: Catastrophic eruption would destroy ALL life on Earth

YELLOWSTONE’S supervolcano could have enough magma to destroy life on Earth in a matter of decades, researchers have warned………

SWEET!  What kinda wax do ya recommend fer dat eh??

one year ago
Go get ur cold meds..get a flu shot..pick up some cough Syrup…cuz uall got a cold comin on!….getting interesting leading up to TGiving and the Holiday itself….Stay tuned!…and waxed….
one year ago

one year ago

 

 

LAKE EFFECT/ENHANCED….High Country Snow Party?……10 days out…..

one year ago

Blue Don posted a pic of weather probs for 15 days out on another thread but that is too far out….I dont like posting stuff like this but to back up the Don here is the GFS 15 day prog…

one year ago

Mr Fish we must will this storm into reality.  No snow means traveling to my sister in laws for turkey day.

one year ago
Think positive..u could be going to ur mother n laws!… This is fun but its a long way out…
one year ago

Blue Don 1982 wrote:

Mr Fish we must will this storm into reality.  No snow means traveling to my sister in laws for turkey day.

LOL

one year ago

one year ago

This thread has been too quiet. 

Anyone else reading the weatherheads posts on social media taking about pattern changes next week and sustained cold moving into our area?

one year ago

Yes, record minimum snow coverage for late Nov in the lower 48 but record cold in Alaska and points north.  Going to flip next week so get your lights up and start waxing!

one year ago

agree, I see 2 cold dips coming and the one around Dec 15th looks good enough to get blowing snow going.  

one year ago

Blue Don 1982 wrote:

This thread has been too quiet. 

Anyone else reading the weatherheads posts on social media taking about pattern changes next week and sustained cold moving into our area?

Just one more thing..  We’re also out of coffee…

one year ago

crgildart wrote:

Just one more thing..  We’re also out of coffee…

CR - You’ll be OK


one year ago

skiracerx wrote:

agree, I see 2 cold dips coming and the one around Dec 15th looks good enough to get blowing snow going.  

Whoa D Doe….models have been consistent with a cold shot coming in the 1st week of Dec  for a good while now and lasting till the model runs out….
Anybody that can see past that is worth GadZillions!!!!!

one year ago
Skirace said the 15th blast looked to get the “Blowing Snow going”…I read it backwards as getting the Snow blowing started?….yeh..hopefully we can get some snow with the cold shot..the next 10 days only show a half foot or so accumulating in the High Country…hopefully some blowing snow after that!
one year ago

I read this the other day and said..”HUH?”….
“An eruption of Mount Agung, which has been rumbling since September and on Monday sent ash soaring 4.7 miles above sea level, could cool the earth for years, which traders say could usher in freezing temperatures across the U.S. and higher gas prices.But research shows Northern Hemisphere winters tend to be warmer than usual following large tropical eruptions; an eruption also could trigger a Pacific Ocean El Nino by cooling tropical Africa, which could set the stage for milder conditions across much of the U.S.”……???….whatever…either way it just shows that even though Man might contribute a little Mother Nature rules!…

We are going to ERUPT in winter weather starting wed the 6th…eastern US will go into snow n cold mode and as happens alot Europe will get hit with a cold snap as well…east coast cold = Alaska warm=europe cold and so on…our turn!
…(Nothing to fear but the Pattern as the Northern Hemi Snow cover is large and deep and the Arctic Ice is gaining nicely…its a go Houston!)

one year ago

fishnski wrote:


…(Nothing to fear but the Pattern as the Northern Hemi Snow cover is large and deep and the Arctic Ice is gaining nicely…its a go Houston!)

HUH? Snow cover in the US is nearly non-existent. This November had record warmth.  This pattern change should change that and our winter starved region will finally have an extended period of snow making weather as well as possible Clipper storms and lake effect snow. My weather guy says this will be a front loaded winter. We shall see.

 

one year ago
The next 10 days will flip any snow cover deficit in the lower 48..meantime they are shoveling it in Europe and central and Northern Asia which is above normal…
one year ago

I sure hope this guy is correct - VIDEO FORECAST

one year ago
Great video post BD….what im liking about this pattern is that we are not just getting dry cold arctic fronts but my Fav for WV…Clippers!…everyone of them could put down 4 to 8 inches…sure beats waiting all winter for that BIG NEaster dump….live Action!…(turtle Man…what happened to him?)
one year ago

Game on here.  Blowing now… natty snow tomorrow in to Saturday.  Will be up there checking it out Sunday… probably under heavu show gun attack hahaha.. Temps in the 20s all day so will cover up for that and scrape goggles frequetly.  Let’s hope they can get enough down to hold the base through the holidays

one year ago

crgildart wrote:

Game on here.  Blowing now… natty snow tomorrow in to Saturday.  Will be up there checking it out Sunday… probably under heavu show gun attack hahaha.. Temps in the 20s all day so will cover up for that and scrape goggles frequetly.  Let’s hope they can get enough down to hold the base through the holidays

Great to see the guns and Mother nature teaming up today on the NC web cams…enjoy….its a southern thang right now…from the beaches of deep south Texas (and down to Mehico )  thru NC and up to the home of the Redskins….Hail?..Snow to the Skins!

one year ago

storm has been moving up into the East Coast now…been in the  80’s here in Florida today but im hearing thunderstorms now which means the cold air is invading!…
here is a recent pic of Canaan valley,Wv….NOT…its Atlanta Georgia!

and now snowing in Sailbury,Md….Winter Storm Warning  Southern Maryland……

one year ago

15 days out so you can take this with a flake of Snow but there is hope for a good Xmas….
MWGA!!

one year ago

Huge uptick in the next 10 day snow totals coming from the Euro and Gfs wx models..they have both been spitting out 9 or 10 inches and this morning jumped to 15 for the Gfs and 24 inches for the Euro!…these are 10 to 1 Snow to liquid ratios and we are talking the Wv Alpps which means we will (could..if it comes true ) beat that by a good margin…and xmas is still coming in decent…still a ways off but we were due for a good start!

11 months ago

starting christmas there are 10 days showing below teen..HIGHS…for North Dakota/Minnesota…peaking at 24 below zero for a high a couple of days….Heat dont fail me now!!!
Cold everywhere….chinese cant get enough heating fuel..England going into..no..been in a deep cold state…and now there is talk of the world going into a 120 year cool down starting in 2019….Guess the GW funds are running dry…
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/667148/climate-change-uk-weather-forecast-global-freeze-ice-age-earth-2019

11 months ago

fishnski wrote:

starting christmas there are 10 days showing below teen..HIGHS…for North Dakota/Minnesota…peaking at 24 below zero for a high a couple of days….Heat dont fail me now!!!
Cold everywhere….chinese cant get enough heating fuel..England going into..no..been in a deep cold state…and now there is talk of the world going into a 120 year cool down starting in 2019….Guess the GW funds are running dry…
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/667148/climate-change-uk-weather-forecast-global-freeze-ice-age-earth-2019

120 year cool down 😆😅😅😆😅😅🙂 That’s pretty funny. All of those thousands of scientist researching climate are getting are getting a good Cristmas gift….a good chuckle. I would be happy with a 120 day cool down. Somebody has to tell the polar bears so they all don’t move to Miami.

11 months ago

Yeh Denis. London is a Huge insulated City at the Southern tip of England and is tempered by the surrounding Sea…but they have had very cold weather and here is a headline from 18 hours ago….”No White Christmas for Brits as temperatures soar to 12C – but COLD snap round corner”….

Bottom line is if we are or have not just been in a normal warmer period cycle maybe made a very minute bit warmer by man but easily adapted to …then if we do get a cooler 120 years, Mother Nature just gave us a last chance to get our act together Christmas Present…Merry Christmas DCSKI…and a happy New Year of fun Skiing!

PS..bundle up..12 below 0 actual temps at the tops of the lifts up in the Wv Alpps sunday morning the 31st!!….

11 months ago

Things may be getting better in the east, but they are an umittigated disaster in Eagle and Summit Counties, Colorado. Snow condtions are really bad. I think   all of Vail’s resorts are at most 25% open (Beaver Creek has 24 out of 150 trails open), and there is virtually no black terrain open. I’m not there, but I can only imagine  how bad it must be to put holliday crowds on such a limited amont of terrain.

 

Merry Christmas to all.

11 months ago

Cold just made it back here today.  Small storm is due Thursday.  I’ll probably drive up and ski Friday morning in an attempt to optomize the post natural and week of snow malking and minimize the holiday crowds out there.Sat and Sunday will proably be NUTS with Monday being a holiday.  Thinking Friday will be the lull if there is one..

11 months ago

bob wrote:

Things may be getting better in the east, but they are an umittigated disaster in Eagle and Summit Counties, Colorado. Snow condtions are really bad. I think   all of Vail’s resorts are at most 25% open (Beaver Creek has 24 out of 150 trails open), and there is virtually no black terrain open. I’m not there, but I can only imagine  how bad it must be to put holliday crowds on such a limited amont of terrain.

 

Merry Christmas to all.

mostly moisture starved but if they had good snowmaking there has been plenty of cold stuff to work with..those sunny clear days up there bring on cold nights!…..Copper mountain recorded snow 15 of the last 25 days but I guess it was really light stuff…another 7 inches in Canaan today…im playing this little violin for CO..my heart breaks for them!…

Here is an image of Christmas day 1983…about mirrors todays image…Co just gets eeked out of the good stuff…but we know that wont last…they have actually been below ave for the last 5 days and are fcast to be below for the next week from what I can tell….just need snow to go with it…
PS…just cked…snowing and 12 degrees loveland pass….fighting back!

11 months ago

Just watching the Canaan valley webcam brings shivers down my back and I have to walk outside my Florida home to soak up a little sunshine and warm up…spending a chunk of winter in Fl will trully turn you into a wimp…northeners are tough!…I know..playing a little violin for me…

11 months ago

fishnski wrote:

bob wrote:

Things may be getting better in the east, but they are an umittigated disaster in Eagle and Summit Counties, Colorado. Snow condtions are really bad. I think   all of Vail’s resorts are at most 25% open (Beaver Creek has 24 out of 150 trails open), and there is virtually no black terrain open. I’m not there, but I can only imagine  how bad it must be to put holliday crowds on such a limited amont of terrain.

 

Merry Christmas to all.

mostly moisture starved but if they had good snowmaking there has been plenty of cold stuff to work with..those sunny clear days up there bring on cold nights!…..Copper mountain recorded snow 15 of the last 25 days but I guess it was really light stuff…another 7 inches in Canaan today…im playing this little violin for CO..my heart breaks for them!…

Here is an image of Christmas day 1983…about mirrors todays image…Co just gets eeked out of the good stuff…but we know that wont last…they have actually been below ave for the last 5 days and are fcast to be below for the next week from what I can tell….just need snow to go with it…
PS…just cked…snowing and 12 degrees loveland pass….fighting back!

 

Aside from the about 12 inches received in CO over the last two days, there hasn’t been much natural snow this year. Absent snowmaking each area might have 1 or  2 trails open. Heck Vail is sporting a 23 inch base on December 25 with China bowl ,Blue Sky,  the back bowls and a bunch of front side terrain all closed. The 10 day forecast indicates there will be no help coming with highs in the 30s and lows in the teens with flurries at best (that’s in Breck, Vail will be warmer as it is at a lower altitude).. This should be the coldest part of the year with night time lows as low as -25 or -30, but not this year.

11 months ago
COLDCOLDCOLDCOLDCOLD……AND..COLDER!…Coldest temp ever recorded for this date in International Falls Minn…36 below…busting a 93 year old record of -32… Energizer Snow bunny keeps druming along in Canaan Valley…another 2.6 recorded at 7am this morn and it hasnt stopped yet!….Lake effect has spilled over the Mtns and my Sis is reporting snow in Baltimore…. This early season so far was not even close to any winter fcast I saw….all those splashy fcasts are all bogus…just guesses…there are just way too many variables in Mama Natures Trick bag….
11 months ago

fishnski wrote:

COLDCOLDCOLDCOLDCOLD……AND..COLDER!…….all those splashy fcasts are all bogus…just guesses…….

Yup fish. Tell it to all those science suckers. I knew once we got a new man in the big house he’d turn the thermostat down. #breakinrecords

11 months ago

Well Camp…we are still .05c warmer than..”Average” worldwide according to recent Anomoly map I saw……but with that said this cold snap  over on this side of the world is super crazy cold…this morning I saw 2 stations in Davis,Wv show  10 below 0…thats colder than any temp recorded in the Canaan area during December in the last 20 years…coldest I saw b4 that was minus 4…shattered!…
Canaan recorded 2.8 inches of snow but I did the math and the Snow had a 56 to 1 Snow to Liquid ratio…thats almost pure air…Powder!
Here is what a weatherman I follow just posted about a trump tweet that this years New years eve could be the coldest ever….

“Fact check on the temperature part: True. Temperatures the morning of January 1, 2018 will be coldest on record from -31°F in South Dakota to -19°F in Des Moines, Iowa and 8°F in Newark! Average Low Temperature across Lower 48 states forecast to be only 9°F🌡️

11 months ago

This helps. But just as another poster said in another thread. This does already feel a little like last season with the 2 big cold snaps that enabled the snow guns to open it all up. 

11 months ago
Latest from the Obs guy (Dave Lesher) at Canaan Valley,Wv…..and it aint over yet!………………………………… “Windy and bitterly cold with very fine snow continuing overnight; -9F at 7AM. This 12-day cold spell is now the longest with the lowest average temperature of any of that duration in 20 years of record-keeping here.”……………………lots of problems with pipes ect up there..including my house with a major mess…folks are working 24/7 up there in these frigid conditions to fix things…brave hardy skiers on slopes..unreal…
11 months ago
I can confirm Dave’s temps. My truck said it was -5f yesterday am on Canaan Heights and the warmest temp I saw was -3f. Skiing was fabulous at CVR.
11 months ago
Brutal..its been snowing every day but its so cold it doesnt flake up… you just see a powder haze blowing thru….
11 months ago

SCWVA wrote:

I can confirm Dave’s temps. My truck said it was -5f yesterday am on Canaan Heights and the warmest temp I saw was -3f. Skiing was fabulous at CVR.

U r a Norsky cold Hardened tough West Virginian!!
11 months ago

Blow as long and hard as they can… build up that base as high as possible..  going back up to 70s by the end of next week..  Can anyone say chaotic??  Biggest storm surge tide flood ever measured in Boston last week.  Not even hurricane season..

11 months ago
-10 deg in my vehicle 8am this morning. Snow was great today, -2 when I left from Soaring Eagle lift at 3p. Spruce was great, didn’t venture to WT because I expected winds to be howling.
11 months ago

Bonzski wrote:

-….Spruce was great, didn’t venture to WT because I expected winds to be howling.

What is Spruce?

11 months ago

camp wrote:

Bonzski wrote:

-….Spruce was great, didn’t venture to WT because I expected winds to be howling.

What is Spruce?

Snowshoe basin side trail.  WT - Western Territory 

11 months ago

How’s this precipitation going to pan out over the next 24hrs? More rain than snow??

11 months ago

All snow at 7springs today (and most of the resorts in the Mid atlantic).   4” today and not super wet.   Some nice turns to be had. 

11 months ago

David wrote:

How’s this precipitation going to pan out over the next 24hrs? More rain than snow??

This did not shrink today

11 months ago

It was nice to get a week or so of winter temps and weather this month.  Spring seems to be here now,,  70 degrees on my porch right now.  Saw a couple mosquitos last night while out on the deck grilling steaks.  Might have to mow the lawn next week..

11 months ago

crgildart wrote:

It was nice to get a week or so of winter temps and weather this month.  Spring seems to be here now,,  70 degrees on my porch right now.  Saw a couple mosquitos last night while out on the deck grilling steaks.  Might have to mow the lawn next week..

Famous last words!…check back in a couple…even down the road…then the snows of Feb…March?…then back to the lawn…

PS….went out fishing in the gulf of mexico florida yesterday….coldest water temps I have ever seen there…dead turtles everywhere..some still alive were floating on top trying to soak up any sun they could get…very sad…so was my fishing…too cold…

11 months ago

Oh ya, fully expecting Sunday-Monday to be skiing on bulletproof refrozen with a layer of ice from the rain Saturday that freezes Sunday then hoping the cats can smash up a couple death cookies to top that off with while they crank the guns back up to blow snow for three more days..

11 months ago

It could be worse. You could be in New Mexico. Sandia has had 7 inches YTD and is closed, Pajarito has had 4 inches YTD and has one run open, Taos has had 12 inches YTD and has 16 trails open (none of em black), and the winner of the most pathetic looking picture goes to Ski Cloudcroft with 13 inches ytd and one trail open (the pic says it all - but it is a beautiful sun set)

 

http://skicloudcroft.net/

11 months ago

bob wrote:

It could be worse. You could be in New Mexico. Sandia has had 7 inches YTD and is closed, Pajarito has had 4 inches YTD and has one run open, Taos has had 12 inches YTD and has 16 trails open (none of em black), and the winner of the most pathetic looking picture goes to Ski Cloudcroft with 13 inches ytd and one trail open (the pic says it all - but it is a beautiful sun set)

 

http://skicloudcroft.net/

That’s very sad to see. 

11 months ago

Well, I am here in the Laurels, and all of that beautiful natural snow we received during that epic cold snap has been washed away. It poured buckets of rain while the snow hangs out just to our west. The dread Ohio Valley storm has ruined our beautiful conditions. The longer that storm hangs out to our west, the less snow we’ll get and the more rain will pour down. It is the reality of skiing the Mid-Atlantic.

11 months ago

Snowsmith - I think you are going to be happy when you wake up. Things really changed overnight.

I think these images update every “X” mins but I’m not certain.  HV CAMS

11 months ago

bob wrote:

It could be worse. You could be in New Mexico. Sandia has had 7 inches YTD and is closed, Pajarito has had 4 inches YTD and has one run open, Taos has had 12 inches YTD and has 16 trails open (none of em black), and the winner of the most pathetic looking picture goes to Ski Cloudcroft with 13 inches ytd and one trail open (the pic says it all - but it is a beautiful sun set)

 

http://skicloudcroft.net/

Same thing/pattern happened back in 1977 …it snowed in Miami, and temperatures were in the 80’s in California - which was experiencing their worst drought on record…….Gerald Ford went to Vail to go skiing and there was no snow…
Anyhoot…Thx for the morning update Blue Don…let it snow!!…back to below 0 tonite in Canaan,,,ouch!

11 months ago

During back half of my rain drenched drive to the Laurels, the temperature dropped from freaking 67 to 33. After dinner and a healthy amount of Pinot noir, I fell asleep. So it was nice to see that our rain saturated snow base has a nice coating of snow. When it is colder than normal here, it is warmer than normal somewhere else. We we lucky this year to be on the colder side. Next week looks good. Please, no more Ohio Valley storms.

11 months ago

My sister’s home mountain is Mt. Ashland in Oregon and they haven’t even opened for the season.  They’ve received 63” of snow this season, but currently 0” base at 7,533’.  She’s been doing some skinning, but says you have to be ready to chase the storms when they roll thru.  I had to laugh and tell her thats standard procedure around here.  She’s a big fan of Whitegrass & Canaan Valley and wasn’t happy when I sent here this.   http://www.instagram.com/p/Bdhsxs4lJqT/?tagged=canaanvalley

http://www.mtashland.com/

 

11 months ago

fishnski wrote:

 

Same thing/pattern happened back in 1977 ...it snowed in Miami, and temperatures were in the 80’s in California - which was experiencing their worst drought on record…….Gerald Ford went to Vail to go skiing and there was no snow…
Anyhoot…Thx for the morning update Blue Don…let it snow!!…back to below 0 tonite in Canaan,,,ouch!

Yes, I remember that.  However.. Last season we skied WRODs in CV when it was still February.. Season before that we skied CV in the rain mid February slightly more terrain than WROD..  Yes, 5 years ago we skied April after a giant dump of wet snow that allowed places to re open.  However, since this thread is about climate and not weather. Let’s look at the pattern.  Yes, I realize that PNW is still getting slammed, even bigger and better but the rain snow line is moving higher up and farther north without a doubt.. faster than I had hoped it would..

11 months ago

Could DCSKI print a glossery? A list of abbreviations and acronyms. I.e  - What’s “WROD”? What’s “PNW”? All I know is “WTF” = Why-The-Face” ! LOL

11 months ago
Funny Mr Buck…wrod…white ribbon of Death….pnw….Pacific North West…. “ the rain snow line is moving higher up and farther north without a doubt.. faster than I had hoped’….quote from Cdart………its snowing in the Sahara Desert again…cant get lower elevation or further south than that!…”we will never make it”…quote…Negative Smurf…
11 months ago

#$%& happens….at least  this year so far…

11 months ago

Denis - DCSki Supporter
11 months ago

I copied that picture of the thurs.- fri. Snowfall prediction for the Sierra.  Apparently it’s a screenshot.  I’d be most grateful for the live link.  Thanks in advance.  Hope you enjoyed the recent weather in the Alpps.

11 months ago

Hey Denis..sorry it took awhile to get back…..I found that from NWS Sacremento Twitter feed…..
https://twitter.com/NWSSacramento?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Once on the twitter site just scroll down till you find it..its 2 days old now….should be a great site for you to follow incase you dont allready know about it…

11 months ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DThdyEaV4AA58xS.jpg

11 months ago

Snow in the Sahara?  Whew, thank God!  That certainly indicates that everything going on with the climate is perfectly normal and not at all chaotic!

11 months ago

Looking forward to a powder day down in central NC tomorrow.  Neighborhood skiing FTW!  Then back up in to the 60s Friday.  Snow doesn’t seen to hang around as long as it used to pretty much everywhere south of the PNW.. and northern Vermont.  Steamboat is doing OK though..

11 months ago

crgildart wrote:

Snow in the Sahara?  Whew, thank God!  That certainly indicates that everything going on with the climate is perfectly normal and not at all chaotic!

Yeah..pretty normal I guess but its as cold as it gets up north in the cold factories of Siberia…71 below 0 is serious buisness….

11 months ago

Deep southern snow….quit your doom n gloom…Smile!

11 months ago

gonna Snow at your house tomorrow CDart!…then all the way down to the beach at my house in Wilmington,nc….Sled the overpasses!!!

11 months ago

Yeah, but you cannot ski in the bayou ! The snow has been misplaced to where they don’t need it or don’t want it. Can we ski on those sand dunes at Kitty Hawk?

10 months ago

Eastern Half Winter making a comeback?…Put that mower back in the shed CDart!……

10 months ago

Not here. Nice blast of winter middle of last week,, then the A/C was back on Saturday,  A foot of snow melted to nothing in under 48 hours.  Rain coming tomorrow with temps in the 70s later this week.  Getting more gas for the lawn mower.  Maybe if I got an electric mower it would fix everything everywhere??

10 months ago

fishnski wrote:

Eastern Half Winter making a comeback?…Put that mower back in the shed CDart!……

can anyone see the image I posted?…I see all my posted images from my laptop but I only see a 3rd of them from my Phone…Im guessing that alot of my posts might be confusing if no one can see the posted images…..

10 months ago

Things in Colorado remain pretty grim. If things don’t change, early season endings are certainly possible.

 

“ As dismal scenes from Crested Butte and Telluride can attest, the southern mountains are faring the worst. The latest data show two river basins in the southwest corner of the state — the Upper Rio Grande and the San Miguel, Dolores, Animas and San Juan — at 34 and 36 percent of average snowpack, respectively. The Gunnison basin to the north isn’t doing much better at 47 percent of historical snow-water equivalent.

The Upper Colorado River basin, which includes Summit County, is currently at a respectable 75 percent of average, owing partly to a La Niña affect that has been pushing storms northward.”

 

https://www.summitdaily.com/news/regional/colorado-snowpack-is-historically-low-but-summit-county-is-faring-better-than-most/

10 months ago

Skiing this weekend in flood warnings might be the last of 100% open terrain south of northern PA.  Temps in the 50s and higher all next week with more hard rain hitting Wednesday through Friday returning again Sunday.  If places stick to their no snow making after Preaident’s Day NC, VA, and some of PA are probably done in two weeks.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
10 months ago

My friends and I are skiing Taos and Telluride in the next couple weeks.  Picked the dates months ago.  6+ inches in both places this weekend, with a little more midweek. We’ll take it!

10 months ago

marzNC wrote:

My friends and I are skiing Taos and Telluride in the next couple weeks.  Picked the dates months ago.  6+ inches in both places this weekend, with a little more midweek. We’ll take it!

Steamboat would have been the best place to book this season.. at least so far.   Every place else out west has been either hugely disappointing or at least below average..

10 months ago

crgildart wrote:

Skiing this weekend in flood warnings might be the last of 100% open terrain south of northern PA.  Temps in the 50s and higher all next week with more hard rain hitting Wednesday through Friday returning again Sunday.  If places stick to their no snow making after Preaident’s Day NC, VA, and some of PA are probably done in two weeks.

Wintergreen (and Massanutten as well, I think - maybe Marznc can chime in) has made snow in March before when conditions allow. Hopefully that will be the case this year.

10 months ago

wgo wrote:

crgildart wrote:

Skiing this weekend in flood warnings might be the last of 100% open terrain south of northern PA.  Temps in the 50s and higher all next week with more hard rain hitting Wednesday through Friday returning again Sunday.  If places stick to their no snow making after Preaident’s Day NC, VA, and some of PA are probably done in two weeks.

Wintergreen (and Massanutten as well, I think - maybe Marznc can chime in) has made snow in March before when conditions allow. Hopefully that will be the case this year.

Well nobody will be able to blame the drought for lack of snow making anymore this season..  Long range forecast isn’t showing any temps low enough to blow.  I’d like to get one more day trip in where actual skiing happens since last week and this week are looking like washouts but for different reasons.. last week figurative, this weekend literal!

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
10 months ago

wgo wrote:

crgildart wrote:

Skiing this weekend in flood warnings might be the last of 100% open terrain south of northern PA.  Temps in the 50s and higher all next week with more hard rain hitting Wednesday through Friday returning again Sunday.  If places stick to their no snow making after Preaident’s Day NC, VA, and some of PA are probably done in two weeks.

Wintergreen (and Massanutten as well, I think - maybe Marznc can chime in) has made snow in March before when conditions allow. Hopefully that will be the case this year.

Pretty sure Massanutten is hosting PSIA clinics again in late Feb.  I expect snowmaking to continue into early March.  Wouldn’t be surprised if staying open longer than Wintergreen is an unstated goal with the new water supply.

10 months ago

Unfortunately I think the local resorts have seen their last good period of skiing for the Winter.    There were some really good conditions at Liberty and Whitetail this week on the days after they made snow, but definitely no snow making weather on the horizon and when/if the cold does come it will be like last year where it was too late.    So little natural snow again for the areas outside of WV, Wisp and Western/Northern PA.    Luckily it’s been cold enough for stretches for good snow making at all resorts, but like last year for many the season will end with a huge whimper.  

10 months ago

Fish, Where are you?  We need some good climate news!

MorganB aka The Colonel

10 months ago

The Colonel wrote:

Fish, Where are you?  We need some good climate news!

MorganB aka The Colonel

No good *weather news in the near future. 

10 months ago

David wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

Fish, Where are you?  We need some good climate news!

MorganB aka The Colonel

No good *weather news in the near future. 

I new somebody would say that I wasnt posting because of warmer weather..hey..I was having a fantastic 2 weeks of Snow and cold up in the land of Canaan and surrounding Alpps and I didnt post then…its all weather to me…good bad or just plain ugly its all about the pattern…plenty of reports of cold and misery around the world while we swing warmer here in the East….
meanwhile..it aint over till the Fat Lady in the Tight Ski pants sings!….

Above the line bad for the East….below the line good..

8 months ago

Winter energizer bunny Rabbit keeps on druming along….who will try to stay open the longest?….It might snow further south into NC this April….And I just saw where Wildcat,Nh is 100% open and in great shape….

8 months ago

Someone needs to call SIA and the golf indisutry equivilant and tell them ski season is now from January through April instead of mid November through mid March.

8 months ago

April Fools!!!….NOT…wish we had this 1sr week of Janurary!

8 months ago

The four lowest maximum extents in the satellite record have all occurred in the past four years. NSIDC will post a detailed analysis of the 2017 to 2018 winter sea ice conditions in our regular monthly post in early April.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

8 months ago

tons of heat released from this last record El Nino kept the ice from forming in the Berring sea plus massive storms made it worse pushing the ice back in and breaking it up…whats normal?

8 months ago

fishnski wrote:

…whats normal?

 

 

What’s normal? For modern human times look at the past 500 years.  In the end it doesn’t matter what’s normal.  Is the climate warming at slightly exponetially increasing rates each year as predicted?  Even most of the skeptics of the past 10 years are now saying yes but maybe we aren’t causing it.. or we are and should just deal with it.

Denis - DCSki Supporter
8 months ago

Crgildart>What’s normal? For modern human times look at the past 500 years.  In the end it doesn’t matter what’s normal.  Is the climate warming at slightly exponetially increasing rates each year as predicted?  Even most of the skeptics of the past 10 years are now saying yes but maybe we aren’t causing it.. or we are and should just deal with it.<

Here’s a tale of once in my lifetime when a resource was considered inexhaustible and humans believed that their activities could never alter the course of nature.  Plus, it is a great read.

https://books.google.com/books/about/Cod.html?id=u8hapOTovrIC&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button 

I grew up in Boston.  My grandfather in Newfoundland, where he was a commercial cod fisherman, on the Grand Banks, in his youth.  Along about 1960 it was announced that cod stocks were falling drastically and the catch needed to be regulated to protect the future of the fishery.  The outcry from commercial fisherman was immediate, angry, and righteous.  “Keep your freaking regulations off our business.  The cod have always been there and they always will.”  It was actually too late.  The cod fishery of the North Atlantic never recovered to even a fraction of what it had been.  Today it is understood that the cod’s former place in the complex web of ocean life has been displaced by other species that moved in to their niche and cod will never again occupy that place.  

# Just for the record, I am not a commercial fisherman, just a fly fisherman whose livelihood fortunately doesn’t depend on fishing skill.  However, I ran NASA’s planetary atmospheres research program for 10 years.

8 months ago

Denis wrote:

 

# Just for the record, I am not a commercial fisherman, just a fly fisherman whose livelihood fortunately doesn’t depend on fishing skill.  However, I ran NASA’s planetary atmospheres research program for 10 years.

How long before we look like Venus?  More importantly, what will ski season look like for our great grand kids?

Denis - DCSki Supporter
8 months ago

To become another Venus?  A long time, perhaps a significant fraction of a billion years, and probably long after we humans have ended the evolutionary experiment with intelligence.  

Skiing for the next few generations will likely become more and more variable.  If it snows pounce on it.

8 months ago

ZZZZ. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzx ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ. Oh just woke up. Had a nightmare that DCSKI was changed to DCSoapbox where instead of talking about skiing folks got up their soap box and brow beat us into looking at the world the way they look at. Kind of reminded me of my opinionated, cranky drunk uncle on Thanksgiving. If I only had DCSKI on Thanksgiving I could have escaped from Uncle Cranky. I am glad we have DCSKI so we can escape from the Uncle Crankys of the world although he may work for FoxNews or MSNBC. He was that annoying.

8 months ago

fishnski wrote:

Winter energizer bunny Rabbit keeps on druming along….who will try to stay open the longest?….It might snow further south into NC this April….And I just saw where Wildcat,Nh is 100% open and in great shape….

Im confused…this was my first post back on this thread in a long time…its about skiing so you must be talking about CDart or Denis being on their “Soapbox”?…
8 months ago

snowsmith wrote:

ZZZZ. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzx ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ. Oh just woke up. Had a nightmare that DCSKI was changed to DCSoapbox where instead of talking about skiing folks got up their soap box and brow beat us into looking at the world the way they look at. Kind of reminded me of my opinionated, cranky drunk uncle on Thanksgiving. If I only had DCSKI on Thanksgiving I could have escaped from Uncle Cranky. I am glad we have DCSKI so we can escape from the Uncle Crankys of the world although he may work for FoxNews or MSNBC. He was that annoying.

Appaently you’re still asleep because you didn’t read the parts where we’re talking about the future of SKIING, or lack of it around these parts at least on a consistant and reliable/predictable season.

8 months ago

Fishnski what are the models saying this morning about the snow chances and amount possibilities for Saturday?

8 months ago

Snowsmith, do you have nieces or nephews?

8 months ago

We’re going in a 3 day hike in Uwharri later this month.  Hoping we won’t be post holing all the way but let me know if we should be packing A/T or XC gear just in case..

8 months ago
The last time I ran a model run which was a couple of days ago it showed snow chances from today thru the weekend then more next week..I just got back from catching a few Spanish Macks out in the Fl Gulf and saw your post mdr227 so I just quickly went to the end result..they are showing canaan as the JSpot for 20 to 25 inches in the next 7 days!….the Whitegrassers will be up high in the April powder zones I suspect…Grand Finale!!
8 months ago

crgildart wrote:

snowsmith wrote:

ZZZZ. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzx ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ. Oh just woke up. Had a nightmare that DCSKI was changed to DCSoapbox where instead of talking about skiing folks got up their soap box and brow beat us into looking at the world the way they look at. Kind of reminded me of my opinionated, cranky drunk uncle on Thanksgiving. If I only had DCSKI on Thanksgiving I could have escaped from Uncle Cranky. I am glad we have DCSKI so we can escape from the Uncle Crankys of the world although he may work for FoxNews or MSNBC. He was that annoying.

Appaently you’re still asleep because you didn’t read the parts where we’re talking about the future of SKIING, or lack of it around these parts at least on a consistant and reliable/predictable season.

👍 ♥ ♥:😁 :😁 ♥ ♥ :😁  👍 👍

8 months ago

Skiing is OVER…time for Spring Baseball!!!….. Record coldest @Twins home game is 31° April 17, 2014. Forecast at first pitch Saturday is 26°…

8 months ago

Tahoe will be getting a foot of snow so above headline about skiing  over is fake news…anyway you look at it  its amazing we have the word snow in our vocabulary anymore…96 years ago  when my great grandfather Smelllikefishnskunk was posting on  DChopetobeSki he posted this….

 

The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fisherman, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto underheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth’s surface.

In August, 1922, the Norwegian Department of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitzbergen and Bear Island under the leadership of Dr. Adolf Hoel, lecturer on geology at the University of Christiania. Its purpose was to survey and chart the lands adjacent to the Norwegian mines on those islands, take soundings of the adjacent waters, and make other oceanographic investigations.

Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north as 81° 29′ in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus.

The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81° north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favorable ice conditions will continue for some time.

In connection with Dr. Hoel’s report, it is of interest to note the unusually warm summer in Arctic Norway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigsten, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted warmer conditions in 1918, that since that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1868 to 1917.

Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found, there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.

 

8 months ago

fishnski wrote:

Tahoe will be getting a foot of snow so above headline about skiing  over is fake news…anyway you look at it  its amazing we have the word snow in our vocabulary anymore…96 years ago  when my great grandfather Smelllikefishnskunk was posting on  DChopetobeSki he posted this….

 

The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fisherman, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto underheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth’s surface.

In August, 1922, the Norwegian Department of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitzbergen and Bear Island under the leadership of Dr. Adolf Hoel, lecturer on geology at the University of Christiania. Its purpose was to survey and chart the lands adjacent to the Norwegian mines on those islands, take soundings of the adjacent waters, and make other oceanographic investigations.

Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north as 81° 29′ in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus.

The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81° north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favorable ice conditions will continue for some time.

In connection with Dr. Hoel’s report, it is of interest to note the unusually warm summer in Arctic Norway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigsten, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted warmer conditions in 1918, that since that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1868 to 1917.

Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found, there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.

 

Wow, just 30 years after The Industrial Revolution really took off globally in the wake of WWI and before anyone was doing anything at all about emmissions monitoring or filtering.  Coincidence??

8 months ago
81 degrees in Canaan Valley right now…warmer than my camp down here in central Gulf Fl…and its sunny!…Climate change?… Cold spring reality will set back in with snow at canaan mon eve…5.2 degrees below normal in the lower 48 since spring..march 21st….
8 months ago

Tornado warnings in MPLS earlier this week.  Blizzard warnings tonight.  Baseball openers snowed out all over the place. What a chaotic Spring indeed!

8 months ago
Cant complain about making it till Mid April..its snowing at Stowe right now and temps in the low 20’s…(24 at 704’..must be much colder higher up on Mtn )………………………. “News & Events After 149 days of skiing & riding this season here at Stowe, we now have only 1 day left. Tomorrow is our final day of operations for the 2017-2018 winter season, so come on up with your friends & family to enjoy a few final runs down the legendary slopes of Mount Mansfield! Today featured some of the more challenging turns of the season thanks to the overnight wet weather followed by a sharp temperature drop. That didn’t stop the Stowe faithful from getting their FourRunner Quad laps in on 2,100 vertical feet of frozen granular conditions, but the good news is we have some precipitation coming in tonight that may help to soften things up. A Winter Weather Advisory is in effect through tomorrow evening as we should see a steady wintry mix overnight into tomorrow morning. We should see some form of accumulation, possibly in the 2-4” range (sleet & snow), but let’s hope for one more Mansfield surprise this season!” “
8 months ago

Average Base DepthsSnowmaking: 30” - 60”……..Natural Snow: 8” - 30”…….Mt. Mansfield Stake: 86”

8 months ago

And here is Wildcat,NH…………………………..”We’re keeping our eye on tonight’s weather forecast but honestly the reports are all over the place, some are calling for up to a foot of snow by Monday morning others say just a few inches. This time of year, at our elevation, it can be tough to really say what we’re looking at. But as soon as we have anything to report you know we’ll be updating this snow report as well as our social media with the latest info.  Fingers crossed we get the heavier end of that forecast because we would love to ski into May and we’d especially love to do it with a ton of fresh snow covering our trails. So everyone out there, please do your snow dances. As of now, we plan to operate daily until April 22 (weather permitting). After then, we will operate weekends only as long as conditions allow.”………………………whats going on at J Peak?……..Anyhoot…this is the latest State of Climate affecting..effecting?…Impacting end of season ski conditions up in NE…..  ***

Denis - DCSki Supporter
8 months ago

Wildcat is directly across Pinkham Notch from Mt. Washington.  When skiing on a sunny day at wildcat you can look directly into the famous ravines on Big George, Gulf of Slides, Tuckerman and Huntington.  All of them are skied.  In May of 1997, Mt. Washington got a record 100” of snow and I skied the Gulf of Slides on the weekend of June 7, our anniversary.  How does that work, you may ask.  Our daughter was expecting her first child, our first grandchild and she called my wife in tears, “mom none of my friends have planned a baby shower, can you have one for me”.  Of course she agreed.  The only date that worked was June 7.   Great, I said, my first baby shower will be for my own daughter and on our anniversary too.  “Oh no. Fathers don’t go, your job is to disappear.”  Hmm, said I, I could disappear at Mt. Washington as easily as I could disappear in the neighborhood.  I skied that weekend, and the grandson was born 2 weeks later.  BTW, he skied Tuckerman from the top at age 9. 

I don’t expect a repeat of 97, but this has been an excellent snow year for the big mountain and it should have an excellent spring skiing season.

https://www.mountwashington.org/experience-the-weather/mount-washington-weather.aspx 

BTW, don’t go there yet.  It’s still winter.  The spring corn cycle has to be well established; freezing nights and warm sunny days for a couple of weeks.  You need to check this daily for several weeks,

https://mountwashingtonavalanchecenter.com/ 

8 months ago

You can say that again Denis!  :-P

I’m not a very big fan of spring skiing.  You’ve got to get out early to start out on bulletproof refrozen granite.  By mid morning it starts to get pretty nice in some spots but still ice in the shade.  By lunch time, however, it’s all slop and puddles.  I’ll do that for a few hours a few days.  But, after that I’m not driving three hours to do it again when other spring and summer activity venues are opening up. 

Way up high, and farther north you might still be getting “good” conditions for the better part of the ski day.  Down here after mid February, it’s almost always snot and slush by noon.

Watched some video of Washington/Tucks the other day.  It was brutal, refrozen ruts all over the place to the point not even the best skiers could turn or traverse across them.  No thanks!

8 months ago

It’s great that New England is having a good late season. The last 3 years have been bad. I had to cancel my Killington vacation in 2016 since they only had 30 trails open for my late February trip. Last year I tried Killington again and it rained and went above 60 degrees 2 days. They only had 60+ trails open. Then it got cold and all that wet snow froze. They also had some serious flooding this year during balmy, Rainey February which wiped out the great snow conditions from our great January. Unfortunately only us diehards ski this time of year, thus this short term cold and snow is a little late. It went up to 85 at my house today so skiing was not on my mind. It’s been a strange year…. remember early in the year Colorado had warm weather and very little terrain open while back east we finally got a long stretch of cold weather. Then came February and it switched and we came very close to a total meltdown. Then the snowy March and skiing till April. Not perfect but certainly better than the last 2 abysmal years. 

8 months ago
Noticed the other day that Canaan switched their cam from the Ski Area to the Golf course..really sweet shots in all directions..captures the Beauty of the Valley really well….after seeing it snow the last few days…and then this morning..April 19th..watching them trying to mow what had melted off from the other day…all the while Sheets of snow coming down was I guess too much to handle..Snow is bad for buis!…cam has been shut down….. This should be it after todays snow storm..(Famous last words)..for Canaan…will end up with 155 inches or so…..Happy Golfing..fishing..biking..swimming ect…..”……
4 months ago

Just a pleasant reminder during all these news reports of Earth melting down to Calm…Inflame?..everyone down…..Hope everyone is having a nice summer….I just got back from 3.5 weeks at Canaan…highs ranged from 68 to 82 (2900’ )..much cooler higher up!…..saw my breath a few mornings which was really COOL after the high 80’s and 90’s down at the beach in NC…….Sad to see waist high grass and a dead Timberline….

exactley average Temps…..isn’t that amazing?…..the ocean between the Caribbean and Africa….Hurricane Alley is way below normal right now…less fuel for the storms….

4 months ago

More science shit. Why should anyone believe this? It’s from a year ago and things have already cooled off a lot since then,

https://youtu.be/K4Ra2HR27pQ

 

4 months ago

camp wrote:

More science shit. Why should anyone believe this? It’s from a year ago and things have already cooled off a lot since then,

https://youtu.be/K4Ra2HR27pQ

 

indeed - what rot; stupid scientists - ahem

https://www.sierrasun.com/news/environment/in-hot-water-lake-tahoe-sees-decreased-clarity-highest-ever-surface-water-temps-in-2017/

4 months ago

That is probably one of the stupidest articles ive read yet Crush….thx for sharing….
Meanwhile watching PBS..BBC world news…ABC news this evening I thought I was watching the END of the World…meanwhile back in reality…………todays high temp anomaly….

 

4 months ago

I read 4 fake news Headlines today….so stupid but to the dumb and dumber..ALARMING!….here is one of them….
HURRICANE HECTOR ON COLLISION COURSE WITH HAWAII AND COULD HIT NEAR VOLCANO!!!..LOL…ck out the track…

 

4 months ago

1 more….2018 hurricane fcast is for 1 to 4 major hurricanes which is well below average but here are the headlines for ya…

one month ago
Northern Hemisphere Snow cover…..Above Average…..Arctic Ice….tucked into the Normal Standard of Deviations…… November 15 and just saw on GMA that it was Trumping on the White House!..(Shout out to the Smith)…..not a fan of early Cold and snow blasts here in the East because its all about the pattern and a pattern doesn’t last all winter…but this latest east coast blaster has really put a pre TGiving Blanket on the slopes so who’s complaining?….sooooo in Summary The State of the Climate seems up to the task for another winter of Snow Sports….just have to get lucky with the placement of the ridges and storms influenced by weathers Indices…GLTA!………………………oh and another Wx tidbit..Places in the Deep South like Monroe,LA recorded their earliest Snow Ever…crazy…
one month ago

Still trending warmer and wetter.. But, it got cold and snowed some wo we’re all gonna be fine for now.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/

one month ago

We did set a record here in Maryland today….. the wettest year ever recorded. Over 62 inches of rain! And we still have a month and a half to go. Not sure what this weather pattern means for this winter. There has been a lot of storms moving up the Ohio Valley which means we’re on the warm side. Although  today we got 3” inches of snow in Baltimore… very unusual. I would be happy if we had a repeat of last winter minus the 2nd half of February. March was great. This year we’ll ski the day after Turkey Day , one of the earliest starts of the ski season ( given the early Thanksgiving) in memory. I’ve heard 2 differing long range winter forecasts, one warm, one cold. I want to believe the cold one😍.

15 days ago
State of the climate has suggested a storm for the East/SE on the 9th..3 days in a row its popped up in different shapes..sizes..and direction on multiple Weather models….stay tuned!
14 days ago
14 days ago
14 days ago

Ok just passing through. So now I see that the number of posts in a thread is limited? 

14 days ago

The reason I mention it is I really wanted to respond to @kemperski regarding his criticism of Canaan Valley Resort for setting an opening date, making snow whenever possible and opening when they said they will, only it seems the Timberlies Future thread is no longer receiving posts, too popular I guess. I skied at Snowshoe on Friday and it was foggy, warm, wet but not raining and there were about twelve people riding the three lifts they had open. I looked for you kemperski 😛.

14 days ago

jimmy wrote:

The reason I mention it is I really wanted to respond to @kemperski regarding his criticism of Canaan Valley Resort for setting an opening date, making snow whenever possible and opening when they said they will, only it seems the Timberlies Future thread is no longer receiving posts, too popular I guess. I skied at Snowshoe on Friday and it was foggy, warm, wet but not raining and there were about twelve people riding the three lifts they had open. I looked for you kemperski 😛.

I feel so misunderstood!   But seriously, I could have expressed myself better.  CVR set a date and they are sticking to it and that’s fine , but when they have the conditions to open later this week I wish they would.  Others in NC and VA will with likely less favorable conditions.  I love CVR and know there are two approaches to opening, soon even with less or later hopefully with more

 

The Irony would be if T-line is spinning lifts this Fri and CVR is not even after more snowmaking and possibly some natural. I want them both open otherwise a five hour drive for me doesn’t make sense. 

Yours, another selfish flatlander

 

footnote:

Gosh I hope this thread can survive the traffic, pity if something happened to it  (cue Monty Python gangsters)

 

14 days ago
Hey…im an Attention seeking Narcisist and I welcome traffic here on my thread….beer..food…state of the Climate at Dcski….ect…….!….SNOW!!!!!…lets talk!
14 days ago

Well done. I think we only have 44 posts to go

 

Might I suggest trump picking up a rake to fix this issue in california?

14 days ago

kemperski wrote:

Well done. I think we only have 44 posts to go

 

Might I suggest trump picking up a rake to fix this issue in california?

Ask and you shall receive. 

14 days ago

That man is an absolute hero

14 days ago

only 31 more to go

 

Might I just say how foolish it is for tree hugging liberals to pretend that anything is wrong ‘round here…. I’m 55 yrs old and any change I’ve seen is purely geographic .. in Texas… in England.. in North Carolina…

silly me

14 days ago

I will say though that when I listen to Trump discuss THE STATE OF THE CLIMATE  (see, topical)  that I wonder about the state of reason

14 days ago

hey kemperski were you around when “the untopic” was the topic? Good times, it went over the limit too. It was a handy place to drop something thoughtful that really doesn’t fit anywhere, kind of like this. So how was the opening day party Friday? Will there be another one in the future? Gotta run, carry on.

14 days ago

Jimmy I don’t get it about the opening day Friday? I really don’t, I was here in NC on a roof.  I hope to be skiing somewhere next Friday before heading to colorado Monday,,

 

I did miss the untopic, 

14 days ago

fishnski wrote:

State of the climate has suggested a storm for the East/SE on the 9th..3 days in a row its popped up in different shapes..sizes..and direction on multiple Weather models….stay tuned!

anybody remember this post from a couple of days ago?…Starting to get some play now on Social media…add the snow this week up in th Wv Alpps to next weekends potential…NC could get smacked hard if they can hold the cold…get your popcorn!…hey..if it doesn’t pan out ya got some good popcorn!

13 days ago

David wrote:

kemperski wrote:

Well done. I think we only have 44 posts to go

 

Might I suggest trump picking up a rake to fix this issue in california?

Ask and you shall receive. 

kemperski wrote:

I will say though that when I listen to Trump discuss THE STATE OF THE CLIMATE  (see, topical)  that I wonder about the state of reason


- Guys! Nice! Thank you so much for addressing the elephant in the frickin’ dining room! You rule - and at least we (NV dems) turned this state (NV) 90% blue — ooooh sorry Scott but you know me it had to come out. Crazy Crush wacko —

13 days ago

its cold in Russia Russia RUSSIA….Here..have a Snicker bar…Better?

JimK - DCSki Columnist
12 days ago

Fish, have you seen a movie called Downsizing with Matt Damon?  It’s really unusual, part sci-fi, part satire/comedy, but also touches on some serious themes including environmentalism.  Interesting,original film and entertaining no matter where you stand on that issue.

12 days ago
Hey JK..nice to hear from you…I don’t watch but maybe 1 movie a year..im aware of them and check out the trailers ect…I remember the movie you speak of but didn’t see it..Im really at a point where I dont support Hollyood anymore since they are so politically biased…cant stand listening to friggin..Actors..that think thier Shit dont stink…maybe since you endorse this flic ill check it out Bud….
12 days ago
Wait a minute…Does Snowsmith like this movie?
12 days ago

The movie costars are Bruce Willis, Sly Stallone and Clint Eastwood brings back his famous empty chair interview of Obama in a tour de force performance about the fossil fuel industry rescuing us from greedy environmentalists. All with a thought provoking, dance beat sound track by Ted Nugent. Two thumbs up from Snowsmith😁.

Now, what about that snowstorm?

12 days ago

Dayum..Mr Smith + Clint + Stallone + Willis + JimK?..hell yeh..Im in!!!…..

Ive been waiting for the new upgraded GFS Model 18Z to come out but the FV3  is stuck somehow and is delayed…..
here is the latest Euro model accumulated precip model fcast. (below)..ok sorry..it wont let me post it…blocking it….anyhoot…its showing as much as 4 inches of liquid eqivalent..we have to guess what liquid to snow ratio will work with this but if we use a 10 to 1 ratio we are talking a Dump for NC…the US model had been bringing up the snow field further up north…maybe giving Snowshoe 8 inches or so but its looking like a SEast storm…Dunno..at 1 time it looked like downtown DC could get a dump….the system has not even come ashore..it was still offshore alaska this morn!..I have been seeing it on the models for 5 days now and posted about it a few days ago..
 

12 days ago

Wow it might snow for a couple days.  Good to see everyhing’s totally fixed and/or fake news.. Still trying to figure out how the Chinese started it all though..

12 days ago

Good News!!

 

this thread only has 18 posts left till lock down!

12 days ago

actually 17 now!

12 days ago

sixteen

Scott - DCSki Editor
12 days ago

kemperski wrote:

sixteen

How old are you, exactly?

12 days ago

fourteen  .. why?

 

(sorry, I really couldm’t resist)

Scott - DCSki Editor
12 days ago

kemperski wrote:

fourteen  .. why?

 

(sorry, I really couldm’t resist)

Yeah, I pretty much set you up for that one.  ;)

9 days ago

Terry Bradshaw

9 days ago

Pablo Picasso rating a balogna on rye.

 

9 days ago

Thought terry wore #12?….im being Dumb…easymoney….
Mount mitchell at close to 7000’ elevation will be Buried…..should beat this  10 to 1 ratio map  due to the elevation…

6 days ago
2 feet up at Sugar Mountain reported so far this AM and its still snowing…icing on the cake…im sure Mt Michell got over 30…has anybody out there seen any totals from the big peaks in the Smokies?…
6 days ago

fishnski wrote:

2 feet up at Sugar Mountain reported so far this AM and its still snowing…icing on the cake…im sure Mt Michell got over 30…has anybody out there seen any totals from the big peaks in the Smokies?…

I just checked.  Sugar reported 20”. Beech reported 23”.  Last night they were reporting about 12”.  I’ve seen better there but that’s going to pack down nice to help them try to avoid the Christmas week disasters they’ve seen several of the past recent seasons.

http://www.skisoutheast.com/snow-reports/#nc

6 days ago
I saw a tweet from Jim Cantore around noon today saying Boone was aproaching 29 inches..Sugars website was reporting 24 as of early am today and it was still snowing…
6 days ago
Sugar mountain…. SNOWMAKING IN PROGRESSNUMBER OF LIFTS OPEN4 (MAP)NUMBER OF SLOPES OPEN10 (MAP)SNOWFALL LAST 24 HOURS24″SNOWFALL LAST STORM24″ (12-10-2018)AVERAGE DEPTH34 – 67″ANNUAL SNOWFALL34.5”…………………..and I just found out Mt Mitchell got 34 inches!…Bingo..knew that was going to be the winner…Wintergreen got 21…Epic Storm…and its not even Winter yet!….
5 days ago

The difference between “weather:” and “climate” is exactly this.  Weather delivers a massive 2 day snow storm that’s epically bigger and better than the norm.  Climate causes it all to melt over the next week/month preventing it from being of nearly as useful as it had been when the average temp was two degrees cooler.  Looks like more “weather” coming this weekend in the form of rain up there..

5 days ago

Ok, we’ve had storms hit north and south of the DC area resorts so far.  When is it going to be our turn?

5 days ago

crgildart wrote:

The difference between “weather:” and “climate” is exactly this.  Weather delivers a massive 2 day snow storm that’s epically bigger and better than the norm.  Climate causes it all to melt over the next week/month preventing it from being of nearly as useful as it had been when the average temp was two degrees cooler.  Looks like more “weather” coming this weekend in the form of rain up there..

Can we just be happy that our southern friends got a 2 foot dump. Regardless of climate, it is after all Carolina and thus it won’t probably hang around for long. I wish we had 5,000+ foot mountains up here in Yankee country. It would be awesome.

5 days ago

snowsmith wrote:

crgildart wrote:

The difference between “weather:” and “climate” is exactly this.  Weather delivers a massive 2 day snow storm that’s epically bigger and better than the norm.  Climate causes it all to melt over the next week/month preventing it from being of nearly as useful as it had been when the average temp was two degrees cooler.  Looks like more “weather” coming this weekend in the form of rain up there..

Can we just be happy that our southern friends got a 2 foot dump. Regardless of climate, it is after all Carolina and thus it won’t probably hang around for long. I wish we had 5,000+ foot mountains up here in Yankee country. It would be awesome.

It was fun.  I imagine that two degrees colder and I’d have had well over two feet instead of 14” in my yard.  It only snowed from midnight until about noon then turned to rain, LOTS of rain from Sunday afternoon until Monday morning.  We got another 3 inches of snow Monday morning when the second cold front arrived.

5 days ago

Well I was at Sugar for the “epic” dump and it reminded me of why I love the Valley so much.  I knew they would groom it down but it was hard to imagine that the ENTIRE day, when they were getting free refills  and the low visibility associated with such a great storm , they would run EVERY snow gun , it was a crapshow, and what an amazing oppurtunity missed, once in a life time storm and they couldn’t relent for an 8 hour window, 

5 days ago
CDart says…….

It was fun.  I imagine that two degrees colder and I’d have had well over two feet instead of 14” in my yard.  It only snowed from midnight until about noon then turned to rain, LOTS of rain from Sunday afternoon until Monday morning.  We got another 3 inches of snow Monday morning when the second cold front arrived.

“…………………………. You live at around 350 feet above sealevel and at a latitude of about 75 miles north of Los Angeles…lucky it even Snowed!….im out of tissues for ur weather woe issues!….

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