Snowjournal.com ending May 15th
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JimK - DCSki Columnist
April 15, 2015 (edited April 15, 2015)
Member since 01/14/2004 🔗
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Anybody else here visit the Snowjournal forums?  Appears that on May 15th it will cease to function after 15 years:    http://www.snowjournal.com/page.php?cid=topic21076

A lot of the photos I've posted in the DCSki forums over the years are hosted there and I think they may go POOF on May 15? 

pagamony - DCSki Supporter 
April 15, 2015
Member since 02/23/2005 🔗
925 posts

Jim, I think all the people that were there that are here are already there.  

 

We might be able to recover the files, but without the service, the links from here will all be broken.  sad.

crgildart
April 16, 2015 (edited April 16, 2015)
Member since 07/13/2014 🔗
767 posts

This is the type of situation that I've always feared about the cloud server age.  I had a problem using one of my machines on PhototBucket awhile ago and started using G+ and facebook as my online photo storage.  I still keep a copy of photo images in house but not so much with the larger video files.  I've stopped burning DVDs of everything and just uplod them.  There are millions of people running on mostly phone devices that would be SOL if YouTube and Vimeo went down.

Denis - DCSki Supporter 
April 16, 2015
Member since 07/12/2004 🔗
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This is a very good point, and at least a few people have started thinking about it.  

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/13/google-boss-warns-forgotten-century-email-photos-vint-cerf

Some of my NASA colleagues wanted to digitize the photographic plates taken by astronomers over the last 150 years, before they degrade and are lost.  This was the only medium for storage of astronomical data before the current digital era.  I dont know if its been done but it could be valuable to trace the record of supernova, comets, glowing gas clouds, etc. over that time.  The above article makes me wonder if the photographic plates might outlive the digital data.

crgildart
April 16, 2015
Member since 07/13/2014 🔗
767 posts

If we were whiped out by a massive solar flare and visitors from other worlds or the future life here found our relics would they be able to recover our digital photos and digital documents, or would they only have the stone carvings previous civilizations left to go on as who we were and what we acompolished??

JimK - DCSki Columnist
April 22, 2015
Member since 01/14/2004 🔗
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There was a preliminary statement on Snowjournal today indicating it will continue.

pagamony - DCSki Supporter 
April 24, 2015
Member since 02/23/2005 🔗
925 posts

crgildart wrote:

If we were whiped out by a massive solar flare and visitors from other worlds or the future life here found our relics would they be able to recover our digital photos and digital documents, or would they only have the stone carvings previous civilizations left to go on as who we were and what we acompolished??

Ok, that is a pretty deep idea.  Chances are still non zero that we wipe ourselves out.  We need to store data in the exo-terrestial cloud rather than the edno-terrestial cloud.  First step, we need a physical and digital library on the moon.  Then we need to go beyond our solar system.  Maybe that is the real reason for space exploration.  

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter 
April 24, 2015
Member since 08/16/2004 🔗
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Hows about one of them subspace computer thingies from Star Trek? Maybe it can be housed on Trantor. Maybe JJ Abrams will be called on to reboot it if it flops.

JimK - DCSki Columnist
May 18, 2015
Member since 01/14/2004 🔗
2,963 posts

Unfortunately, as I feared many of my photos in reports I posted in the forums have gone poof with the closing of the original SnowJournal website.  I wonder if there is a less than super painful way to restore them?  

The new SnowJournal site is nice:  http://www.snowjournal.com/

The Colonel - DCSki Supporter 
May 19, 2015
Member since 03/5/2004 🔗
3,110 posts

Jim,

Have you contacted the old SnowJournal folks, both by phone, website, Facebook and email of previous owner?  Might also try to contact present owner to see if they have the file?

The Colonel

crgildart
May 19, 2015
Member since 07/13/2014 🔗
767 posts

pagamony wrote:

crgildart wrote:

If we were whiped out by a massive solar flare and visitors from other worlds or the future life here found our relics would they be able to recover our digital photos and digital documents, or would they only have the stone carvings previous civilizations left to go on as who we were and what we acompolished??

Ok, that is a pretty deep idea.  Chances are still non zero that we wipe ourselves out.  We need to store data in the exo-terrestial cloud rather than the edno-terrestial cloud.  First step, we need a physical and digital library on the moon.  Then we need to go beyond our solar system.  Maybe that is the real reason for space exploration.  

Even if they found a flash drive or hard drive would they be able to figure out how to decode and read it?  Binary code might be completely foreign to them.  They might think a flash drive was some kind of ancient jewelry or something,

GGNagy
July 25, 2015
Member since 01/5/2006 🔗
504 posts

Been out of touch with SJ for a while, but I mostly went there for the NELSAPping and lost ski areas anyway. If I had anything up on the site, it was not worth saving (ski area designs) or I have backups.

pagamony - DCSki Supporter 
July 25, 2015
Member since 02/23/2005 🔗
925 posts

GGNagy wrote:

Been out of touch with SJ for a while, but I mostly went there for the NELSAPping and lost ski areas anyway. If I had anything up on the site, it was not worth saving (ski area designs) or I have backups.

no worries it came back stronger than ever.   SJ 2.0 rocks.

GGNagy
July 26, 2015
Member since 01/5/2006 🔗
504 posts

pagamony wrote:

GGNagy wrote:

Been out of touch with SJ for a while, but I mostly went there for the NELSAPping and lost ski areas anyway. If I had anything up on the site, it was not worth saving (ski area designs) or I have backups.

no worries it came back stronger than ever.   SJ 2.0 rocks.

Is it teh haps?

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter 
July 26, 2015
Member since 08/16/2004 🔗
2,038 posts

GGNagy wrote:

pagamony wrote:

GGNagy wrote:

Been out of touch with SJ for a while, but I mostly went there for the NELSAPping and lost ski areas anyway. If I had anything up on the site, it was not worth saving (ski area designs) or I have backups.

no worries it came back stronger than ever.   SJ 2.0 rocks.

Is it teh haps?

It's in there!

 

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